Should we start cactus thorns? <grin>
Oldcranky

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Tom Jordan <[email protected]> wrote:

> FYI
> I Googled "Bamboo Phonograph needles" and got a few hits.
>
> One site even gives step by step instructions for making your own
> Bamboo/fiber needles.
>
> I'm not recommending any of these, but thought that it might be helpful.
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> On
> Behalf Of Mike Stitt
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:27 PM
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Newbie Question - How To Tell an Acoustical Record
>
> Don't forget you must "train" your records when using bamboo.
> Mike\Oldcranky
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Bob Maffit <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Steve:
> >
> > Other than finding the Bamboo needles in phonographs I have obtained,
> > I haven't found a source for them.
> >
> > Do you know of any?
> >
> > later
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > On
> > Behalf Of Steven Medved
> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 7:12 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Newbie Question - How To Tell an Acoustical
> > Record
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > If you want to preserve a record you need to use a quality needle and
> > change it after each play.  The Chamberlain needles on eBay are fully
> > polished, but the diameter is too large and they contact the shoulders
> > at the beginning of each play.
> >
> >
> >
> > You see many victrolas with records that look new, at least you used to.
> > When the reproducer was new with soft gaskets the reproducer was
> > compliant and they changed needles each time.  70 years later with
> > hard gaskets and the same needle the records wear.
> >
> >
> >
> > I believe that as long as the record is shellac a steel needle is OK
> > unless the record is rare or an early one then you would want to use
> > bamboo.  The vinyl 78's and the flexible Marconi records I would not
> > use a steel needle with.
> >
> >
> >
> > I suggest medium tone needles, you get less distortion.
> >
> >
> >
> > The shellac records were made with an abrasive so they will accomodate
> > steel needles, I learned the hard way vinyl is badly affected by steel
> > needles.
> > I do not think electrically recorded records are adversly affected by
> > a steel needle, I have never noted any problems.  The run in groove
> > appeared around 1930 to 1933 from what I have been told. I welcome
> > comments. Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 23:06:36 -0500
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: [Phono-L] Newbie Question - How To Tell an Acoustical
> > > Record
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I've just gotten my first keeper wind-up phonograph, a Victor VV
> > > 8-35 (which a list member is refurbishing the mechanics of, I can
> > > hardly wait!), and I have a really elementary question: How do I
> > > tell which records can be safely played with a steel needle?
> > >
> > > I suspect all Victor batwings are OK. But is there a general rule of
> > > thumb besides date (would that be pretty much 1930s and before?) As
> > > late as when? Is absence of a spiral run-in groove a reliable
> indicator?
> > > Does "electrically recorded" mean too late?
> > >
> > > I belong to an antique radio club and at the last meeting one member
> > > sold another a table model along with half a dozen albums of
> > > 1940s-1950s 78s. I told them both that the steel needle in the heavy
> > > acoustic reproducer will ruin those records, and with the right
> > > records you also need to replace the needle for every play. But they
> > > went ahead demonstrating the machine and turning the grooves white.
> > > Oh
> > well.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Chris Kocsis
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