FYI
I Googled "Bamboo Phonograph needles" and got a few hits.

One site even gives step by step instructions for making your own
Bamboo/fiber needles.  

I'm not recommending any of these, but thought that it might be helpful.
Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Mike Stitt
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:27 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Newbie Question - How To Tell an Acoustical Record

Don't forget you must "train" your records when using bamboo.
Mike\Oldcranky

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Bob Maffit <[email protected]> wrote:

> Steve:
>
> Other than finding the Bamboo needles in phonographs I have obtained, 
> I haven't found a source for them.
>
> Do you know of any?
>
> later
>
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> On
> Behalf Of Steven Medved
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 7:12 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Newbie Question - How To Tell an Acoustical 
> Record
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If you want to preserve a record you need to use a quality needle and 
> change it after each play.  The Chamberlain needles on eBay are fully 
> polished, but the diameter is too large and they contact the shoulders 
> at the beginning of each play.
>
>
>
> You see many victrolas with records that look new, at least you used to.
> When the reproducer was new with soft gaskets the reproducer was 
> compliant and they changed needles each time.  70 years later with 
> hard gaskets and the same needle the records wear.
>
>
>
> I believe that as long as the record is shellac a steel needle is OK 
> unless the record is rare or an early one then you would want to use 
> bamboo.  The vinyl 78's and the flexible Marconi records I would not 
> use a steel needle with.
>
>
>
> I suggest medium tone needles, you get less distortion.
>
>
>
> The shellac records were made with an abrasive so they will accomodate 
> steel needles, I learned the hard way vinyl is badly affected by steel 
> needles.
> I do not think electrically recorded records are adversly affected by 
> a steel needle, I have never noted any problems.  The run in groove 
> appeared around 1930 to 1933 from what I have been told. I welcome 
> comments. Steve
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 23:06:36 -0500
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [Phono-L] Newbie Question - How To Tell an Acoustical 
> > Record
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've just gotten my first keeper wind-up phonograph, a Victor VV 
> > 8-35 (which a list member is refurbishing the mechanics of, I can 
> > hardly wait!), and I have a really elementary question: How do I 
> > tell which records can be safely played with a steel needle?
> >
> > I suspect all Victor batwings are OK. But is there a general rule of 
> > thumb besides date (would that be pretty much 1930s and before?) As 
> > late as when? Is absence of a spiral run-in groove a reliable indicator?
> > Does "electrically recorded" mean too late?
> >
> > I belong to an antique radio club and at the last meeting one member 
> > sold another a table model along with half a dozen albums of 
> > 1940s-1950s 78s. I told them both that the steel needle in the heavy 
> > acoustic reproducer will ruin those records, and with the right 
> > records you also need to replace the needle for every play. But they 
> > went ahead demonstrating the machine and turning the grooves white. 
> > Oh
> well.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Chris Kocsis
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