I also disagree with the merger. Each organization is unique in it's own way. Both publications are great. ITG focuses on all phonographs, even ones from the 1950's, and The Sound Box covers the earlier ones. I know Steve already said that. I like ITG because it has different writers than the Sound Box. I like the free want adds, chapter news, how to articles, foreign machines by Anthony Sinclair. and the many other different articles. Both publications do not overlap. I also like the 6 issues as opposed to 4 issues of Sound Box. Even though I'm opposed to the 2 clubs merging, I know that they will judging from the consensus. If they merge, I hope the new publication will have the features of ITG. What ever is best for the hobby. Harvey Kravitz
________________________________ From: Jim Nichol <[email protected]> To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Proposed Merger of MAPS and APS and successorpublication name I've never thought that "In the Groove" meant anything specific about our hobby, and is not a good way to recruit members. For instance, use Google to search for "The Antique Phonograph", and you get our website on the 1st page of results. If you do a Google search on "In the Groove", you don't get a hit until the 9th PAGE of results (long after most people would give up). Jim Nichol On Jul 11, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Paul Christenzen <[email protected]> wrote: > Disagree!!! Nothing wrong with a good cliche (IF it even is one), > historically significant, recognized world-wide and makes a good acronym. > > Paul Christenzen, simple-minded collector > > > Bruce wrote: >> OK, I'll step up to be the first person to disagree with Steve. >> >> When the improvements were being made to the former CAPS publication, "The >> Sound Box", concurrent with the name change to the organization, we wanted a >> name for the publication that would speak to the stature of its quality. >> Names like "The Sound Box" seemed too much like a cliché that fell far short >> of the quality of the product. "In the Groove" as a publication name, >> regardless of its age, falls short as well. >> >> Bruce Peterson - former CAPS/APS president >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Melissa Ricci >> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:26 AM >> To: Antique Phonograph List >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Proposed Merger of MAPS and APS and >> successorpublication name >> >> Well said, Steve! I agree 100% >> >> Melissa >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:37 AM >> Subject: [Phono-L] Proposed Merger of MAPS and APS and successor publication >> name >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I am posting this to both Phonolist and Phono-L -- the two listserves I >> subscribe to. >> Those of you who belong to the Antique Phonograph Sovciety (formerly known >> as the Calif. APS) should have received a letter in the mail this week (or >> will shortly -- mine came yesterday) detailing the proposed merger of the >> APS with MAPS effective January 1, 2014, (I'm guessing MAPS members will >> get >> something soon.). I was told that there was a preliminary meeting of >> members held at the Union show lat month, though no mention was made in any >> >> reports of the show on either of these lists. So the mailing from CAPS was >> the >> first formal document I saw. >> As outlined in the letter, the two organizations are often serving the >> same group with 160 members (of MAPS' 607 and APS's 400 members belonging >> to >> both. Economically it makes sense because postage to mail each society's >> magazine/journal is the biggest cost. By combining memberships, there would >> >> be one dues and this might attract more members. (Side note here: Every >> person on these newsgroups should belong to at least one of these >> organizations to support the hobby.). >> The plan is to take the best of both magazines and combine into one. >> Currently APS's magazine focuses on pre-electric phonographs and and some >> recordings -- mostly pre-1910 -- while ITG (MAPs' magazine) covers recording >> artists as well as reissues of pre-Lp era recordings. (As most of you know, >> I >> have contributed a monthly -- now bi-monthly -- column, "Anything >> Phonographic" >> to ITG for over 20 years , not missing one issue yet!). >> I definitely support the merger if it will mean continuing the great >> volunteer work done by the Boards and contributors of both organizations. >> But -- >> as I wrote in a letter to both boards yesterday -- I feel that the proposal >> to make the name of the new society's publication -- which would be >> published quarterly with more yearly pages than either has now -- "The >> Antique >> Phonograph" is not a good move. Personally I do not feel that it reflects >> the >> contents if, in fact, the content will be similar to that in the current >> ITG. "In The Groove" was named 30 years ago by John Whitacre and I have >> worked with all four of its Editors during that time. It was chosen because >> it >> reflected phonographs (I don't call them "antique phonographs" because RCA >> 45 players from the 1950s are now considered "antiques") and records. It >> was a "brand" that no one was using and has a history. The name "The >> Antique Phonograph" would imply that the publication was only for "machine >> collectors". I know some of you -- and many who write me about my column -- >> may >> only have one or two windups but love old records and play them >> electrically or buy reissues on CDs. >> The reason for this (rather lengthy post) is to say that I plan to vote >> for the merger (the ballots are due by August 7th and I'll be on vacation >> for >> a short time before then ) but I am planning to note that, as a member, I >> feel the surviving magazine should be named "In The Groove" , maintaining >> its 30 year history. (BTW, RCA has an consumer newsletter covering their >> phonographs and records in the 1940s with the same name!). I encourage you >> to >> cast your vote to support the boards, but, if you feel as strongly about >> the change of the magazine's name as I do, I urge you to contact the >> combined Board Members of both organizations and let them know your >> preferences, >> WHATEVER they may be. >> Steve Ramm >> (Member of MAPS, APS and ARSC) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
