I couldn't have put it better myself, Bill! Melissa
________________________________ From: Bill Taney <[email protected]> To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Proposed Merger of MAPS and APS and successorpublication name I agree, 'In The Groove' always seemed like a upbeat and positive name. It's not stuffy or too academic and conveys that it's about records, music and phonographs. Bill Sent from my iPad > On Jul 11, 2013, at 4:24 PM, Melissa Ricci <[email protected]> wrote: > > Just my humble opinion, but I have always liked the name "In the Groove" and > will be sorry to see it go if it is voted down. I also really like the > current format and design of the publication. I hope that will not change. > Melissa > > > ________________________________ > From: Peter Fraser <[email protected]> > To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> > Cc: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 5:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Proposed Merger of MAPS and APS and > successorpublication name > > > If it's to be considered a new organization, I'd imagine it makes sense to > give it a new name, let's say something like the American Antique Phonograph > Society, just for talking purposes. > > Then it's a no-brainer to name the periodical "The AAPS Journal." > > As others have said, keeping things simple is usually a good strategy. And > you're not pointing the emphasis towards machines or records, if that matters > - although the record people have their own clubs and journals, right? I > guess the two phono clubs are mostly hardware related, but also naturally > with coverage of the media we play on that hardware - but still coming from > the machine standpoint overall. > > "In The Groove" was always sort of non-descriptive and hackneyed in my > (likely insignificant) opinion, although I can see how it would have > sentimental value for some. I used to belong to MAPS in order to receive it, > but dropped out when its quality declined a few years back. > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- Peter > [email protected] > >> On Jul 11, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Paul Christenzen <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Disagree!!! Nothing wrong with a good cliche (IF it even is one), >> historically significant, recognized world-wide and makes a good acronym. >> >> Paul Christenzen, simple-minded collector >> >> >> Bruce wrote: >>> OK, I'll step up to be the first person to disagree with Steve. >>> >>> When the improvements were being made to the former CAPS publication, "The >>> Sound Box", concurrent with the name change to the organization, we wanted a >>> name for the publication that would speak to the stature of its quality. >>> Names like "The Sound Box" seemed too much like a cliché that fell far short >>> of the quality of the product. "In the Groove" as a publication name, >>> regardless of its age, falls short as well. >>> >>> Bruce Peterson - former CAPS/APS president >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Melissa Ricci >>> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:26 AM >>> To: Antique Phonograph List >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Proposed Merger of MAPS and APS and >>> successorpublication name >>> >>> Well said, Steve! I agree 100% >>> >>> Melissa >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:37 AM >>> Subject: [Phono-L] Proposed Merger of MAPS and APS and successor publication >>> name >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I am posting this to both Phonolist and Phono-L -- the two listserves I >>> subscribe to. >>> Those of you who belong to the Antique Phonograph Sovciety (formerly known >>> as the Calif. APS) should have received a letter in the mail this week (or >>> will shortly -- mine came yesterday) detailing the proposed merger of the >>> APS with MAPS effective January 1, 2014, (I'm guessing MAPS members will >>> get >>> something soon.). I was told that there was a preliminary meeting of >>> members held at the Union show lat month, though no mention was made in any >>> >>> reports of the show on either of these lists. So the mailing from CAPS was >>> the >>> first formal document I saw. >>> As outlined in the letter, the two organizations are often serving the >>> same group with 160 members (of MAPS' 607 and APS's 400 members belonging >>> to >>> both. Economically it makes sense because postage to mail each society's >>> magazine/journal is the biggest cost. By combining memberships, there would >>> >>> be one dues and this might attract more members. (Side note here: Every >>> person on these newsgroups should belong to at least one of these >>> organizations to support the hobby.). >>> The plan is to take the best of both magazines and combine into one. >>> Currently APS's magazine focuses on pre-electric phonographs and and some >>> recordings -- mostly pre-1910 -- while ITG (MAPs' magazine) covers recording >>> artists as well as reissues of pre-Lp era recordings. (As most of you know, >>> I >>> have contributed a monthly -- now bi-monthly -- column, "Anything >>> Phonographic" >>> to ITG for over 20 years , not missing one issue yet!). >>> I definitely support the merger if it will mean continuing the great >>> volunteer work done by the Boards and contributors of both organizations. >>> But -- >>> as I wrote in a letter to both boards yesterday -- I feel that the proposal >>> to make the name of the new society's publication -- which would be >>> published quarterly with more yearly pages than either has now -- "The >>> Antique >>> Phonograph" is not a good move. Personally I do not feel that it reflects >>> the >>> contents if, in fact, the content will be similar to that in the current >>> ITG. "In The Groove" was named 30 years ago by John Whitacre and I have >>> worked with all four of its Editors during that time. It was chosen because >>> it >>> reflected phonographs (I don't call them "antique phonographs" because RCA >>> 45 players from the 1950s are now considered "antiques") and records. It >>> was a "brand" that no one was using and has a history. The name "The >>> Antique Phonograph" would imply that the publication was only for "machine >>> collectors". I know some of you -- and many who write me about my column -- >>> may >>> only have one or two windups but love old records and play them >>> electrically or buy reissues on CDs. >>> The reason for this (rather lengthy post) is to say that I plan to vote >>> for the merger (the ballots are due by August 7th and I'll be on vacation >>> for >>> a short time before then ) but I am planning to note that, as a member, I >>> feel the surviving magazine should be named "In The Groove" , maintaining >>> its 30 year history. (BTW, RCA has an consumer newsletter covering their >>> phonographs and records in the 1940s with the same name!). I encourage you >>> to >>> cast your vote to support the boards, but, if you feel as strongly about >>> the change of the magazine's name as I do, I urge you to contact the >>> combined Board Members of both organizations and let them know your >>> preferences, >>> WHATEVER they may be. >>> Steve Ramm >>> (Member of MAPS, APS and ARSC) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
