You're welcome. If it's stubborn, as it may well be, another soak and another day can get it closer to success. You have to picture what's happening microscopically between the spindle and the turntable hub; a VERY slow creeping in of the oil in tiny increments.
Andrew On Aug 29, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote: > > > Hi Andrew, > Thank you for the advice! We have been in this position before with a Victor > II turntable that was just terrible to remove! What a chore! We managed to > get it off with our hands and the hammer trick but we felt the liquide wrench > did very little to help even after soaking overnight twice. I am excited to > try the product you suggest so maybe this time will be better. Thanks so much! > Melissa > > > ------------------------------ > On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 7:13 PM EDT Andrew Baron wrote: > >> Regarding the turntable liberation, I've found that the product PB Blaster >> works much more effectively than Liquid Wrench or WD40. Any will stain the >> felt but might be cleaned with a solvent afterward. >> >> A soak over night can work wonders, and then the turntable should be >> leveraged upward by placing the fingers of each hand under the rim at 9 and >> 3 o'clock and exerting upward force. Based on the rust I see in the photos, >> this still might need more help, so WHILE exerting a firm and steady upward >> force with both hands (good thing there's two of you), give the top of the >> spindle a sharp tap with a hammer. It may take a few tries, but be sure >> that the penetrating oil has had a chance to do its job, and it's best to >> use a hard plastic mallet to avoid deforming the spindle top, or taking >> other precautions. >> >> Wedges can also be used in lieu of fingers, if applied simultaneously and >> exactly opposite each other -- beware that you can bend the spindle if >> you're not careful, even if using only your hands. >> >> Good luck. >> >> Andrew Baron >> Santa Fe >> >> On Aug 29, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote: >> >>> Hi Harvey, >>> >>> Thanks for your insight! Nick is trying to get the turntable off as we >>> speak to check for those extra holes. It is rusted on tight and it has been >>> a long day today so we may wait til the weekend to actually get it off. He >>> says he can see under the turntable and that there do not appear to be any >>> extra holes just the three screws holding the motor on. >>> >>> Thanks again, >>> Melissa >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: harvey kravitz <harveykrav...@yahoo.com> >>> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 6:12 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Mystery Phono! Vic 3 or Frankenphone? >>> >>> >>> From what I can see the parts are from a later Victor III. The cabinet >>> looks old and original, but not to a Victor III. Did you take off the turn >>> table to see if there were multiple holes in the motor board? If so, that >>> would mean a swapped motor. If not, the cabinet can be new old stock that >>> was modified by the original owner, a dealer, or a handyman. If there are >>> no extra holes in the cabinet, I would strip and refinish it. It would be a >>> very unique machine. >>> Harvey Kravitz >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Melissa Ricci <riccib...@yahoo.com> >>> To: Phono-l <phono-l@oldcrank.org>; "phonol...@yahoogroups.com" >>> <phonol...@yahoogroups.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:34 PM >>> Subject: [Phono-L] Mystery Phono! Vic 3 or Frankenphone? >>> >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> Last night, Nick an I won an interesting phonograph at a local junk >>> auction. Someone has spray painted the entire cabinet gold...inside and >>> out! The double spring motor looks to be from a Victor III, the turntable >>> and the upper works appear to be from a Victor III and it came with a ID >>> plate (tacked inside the cabinet) that indicates it is indeed a Victor III. >>> It also came with a nice original wood horn. >>> >>> The problem is, we have never seen a Victor cabinet with this design >>> before. After quite a bit of research, we found that the Vic III came in >>> two cabinet types and neither of them match this one, not even close! We >>> own a late style Victor III to compare it to and it is definitely not the >>> same. Strange. The wood under the terrible gold paint looks old and the >>> back bracket looks to be correct. So we need to find out, is this a >>> Frankenphone made up of Victor III parts with a handmade cabinet or a >>> cabinet from a different machine? I was unable to find any cabinets with >>> the kind of moldings this one has. Here are a few links to pictures we just >>> took. >>> >>> Any ideas are greatly appreciated! >>> >>> http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09701.jpg.html >>> >>> >>> http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09702.jpg.html >>> >>> >>> http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09703.jpg.html >>> >>> >>> http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09704.jpg.html >>> >>> >>> http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09705.jpg.html >>> >>> >>> http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09706.jpg.html >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Melissa >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.org >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
