Squirt a bit of penetrating oil (PB blaster comes to mind) on that center
shaft.  Tomorrow, have one of you lift up on the turntable while another
hits the center shaft with a mallet.  The turntable should pop off.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Melissa Ricci
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 6:40 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Mystery Phono! Vic 3 or Frankenphone?

Hi Harvey,

Thanks for your insight! Nick is trying to get the turntable off as we speak
to check for those extra holes. It is rusted on tight and it has been a long
day today so we may wait til the weekend to actually get it off. He says he
can see under the turntable and that there do not appear to be any extra
holes just the three screws holding the motor on. 

Thanks again,
Melissa 


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 From: harvey kravitz <[email protected]>
To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Mystery Phono! Vic 3 or Frankenphone?
 

>From what I can see the parts are from a later Victor III. The cabinet looks
old and original, but not to a Victor III. Did you take off the turn table
to see if there were multiple holes in the motor board? If so, that would
mean a swapped motor. If not, the cabinet can be new old stock that was
modified by the original owner, a dealer, or a handyman. If there are no
extra holes in the cabinet, I would strip and refinish it. It would be a
very unique machine.
Harvey Kravitz




________________________________
From: Melissa Ricci <[email protected]>
To: Phono-l <[email protected]>; "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:34 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] Mystery Phono! Vic 3 or Frankenphone?


Hello Everyone,

Last night, Nick an I won an interesting phonograph at a local junk auction.
Someone has spray painted the entire cabinet gold...inside and out! The
double spring motor looks to be from a Victor III, the turntable and the
upper works appear to be from a Victor III and it came with a ID plate
(tacked inside the cabinet) that indicates it is indeed a Victor III. It
also came with a nice original wood horn. 

The problem is, we have never seen a Victor cabinet with this design before.
After quite a bit of research, we found that the Vic III came in two cabinet
types and neither of them match this one, not even close! We own a late
style Victor III to compare it to and it is definitely not the same.
Strange. The wood under the terrible gold paint looks old and the back
bracket looks to be correct. So we need to find out, is this a Frankenphone
made up of Victor III parts with a handmade cabinet or a cabinet from a
different machine? I was unable to find any cabinets with the kind of
moldings this one has. Here are a few links to pictures we just took. 

Any ideas are greatly appreciated!

http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09701.j
pg.html


http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09702.j
pg.html


http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09703.j
pg.html


http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09704.j
pg.html


http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09705.j
pg.html


http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09706.j
pg.html


Thanks,
Melissa
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