At 08:31 PM 5/16/2001 -0400, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote:
>[Jani Taskinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> > On Wed, 16 May 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> >
> > >Also bare in mind that a very large percentage of the developers don't
> > >*want* to be forced to change their code, and consider it to be a
> >
> > Who's forcing anybody to update anyway?
> >
> > >misfeature in the language if it breaks downwards compatibility in between
> > >releases, regardless of whether they get a clear notification about it
> or not.
> >
> > It seems like everybody just ignores my emails..oh well. So I can rant
> > again. >:-p
> >
> > Have you ever heard that you can also change that number in the middle?
> > 4.0.6
> > This one----^
> >
> > It can be something else than an ellipse called zero..it can even be a
> > number 1!!! Whoa! Never thougth about that?!
> >
> > And maybe, just MAYBE then these people (who you seem to think of as
> > complete idiots) would READ the NEWS file? Or e.g. RELEASE_NOTES ?
> >
> > Or is that number in the middle reserved for something special? Something
> > the 'group' only know of and don't want to tell us lower class people?
> > Maybe the 'group' could take their thumbs out of their asses and
> > start DOING something? And maybe they could start listening to new ideas
> > for once and a while. Or is the 'group' nowadays only Zeev/Andi ?
> >
> > It would be really nice to hear from the other members of the 'group' also
> > as it really seems like the only ones speaking for it are Zeev/Andi..
> >
> > Or could someone please define the function of this mysterious 'group' ?
> > (And please, someone else than Zeev/Andi.. :)
>
>Hey Jani, you can attribute yourself as the PHP Whipping Boy now if
>you like. I think you just got enough points. :-)
>
>I completely agree that we should start using the minor version. It's
>like we're afraid to touch it because that would imply too big changes
>or something. Seeing how huge our process between "micro" versions
>has become, it's just getting weirder.
>
>I think we should take a good look at the 4.1 TODO and split into a
>4.1 and 4.2 TODO, and have 4.1 out sooner, maybe even as the next
>release after 4.0.6.
I agree. I just think we should concentrate on something specific for 4.1.
Otherwise, we're going to split up our efforts too much and 4.1 won't
happen. I would go with the standardization stuff everyone has wanted and
get it over with :) I'd like to do this without breaking everyone's sites
though.
Andi
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