At 14:06 16/5/2001, Jani Taskinen wrote:
>On Wed, 16 May 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> >Also bare in mind that a very large percentage of the developers don't
> >*want* to be forced to change their code, and consider it to be a
>Who's forcing anybody to update anyway?

We are, by not supporting old versions (i.e., no bug fixes, no security 
updates, no nothing).

> >misfeature in the language if it breaks downwards compatibility in between
> >releases, regardless of whether they get a clear notification about it 
> or not.
>It seems like everybody just ignores my emails..oh well. So I can rant
>again. >:-p

I don't ignore your Email;  I answered you.

>Have you ever heard that you can also change that number in the middle?
>           4.0.6
>This one----^
>It can be something else than an ellipse called can even be a
>number 1!!! Whoa! Never thougth about that?!

So what?  ISPs and many companies won't be bothered even if you change the 
ellipse to the number of the beast.  So what.  It breaks compatibility.

>And maybe, just MAYBE then these people (who you seem to think of as
>complete idiots) would READ the NEWS file? Or e.g. RELEASE_NOTES ?

It has nothing to do with their level of stupidity, or even 
ignorance.  They can be Einsteins, but breaking downwards compatibility 
means we're giving them work to do, work that they don't want to do, and 
shouldn't be forced to do.

>Or is that number in the middle reserved for something special? Something
>the 'group' only know of and don't want to tell us lower class people?
>Maybe the 'group' could take their thumbs out of their asses and
>start DOING something? And maybe they could start listening to new ideas
>for once and a while. Or is the 'group' nowadays only Zeev/Andi ?
>It would be really nice to hear from the other members of the 'group' also
>as it really seems like the only ones speaking for it are Zeev/Andi..
>Or could someone please define the function of this mysterious 'group' ?
>(And please, someone else than Zeev/Andi.. :)

I'll let that topic slide for now.  We'll get around to it soon.  At any 
rate, other than your mood, the issue of the group has nothing to do with 
this issue.


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