At 22:24 01/01/2002, Manuel Lemos wrote:
>One thing that I think it is really vital to prevent PHP to leak even
>more users to other languages is to have built-in support for consuming
>Web services.

Manuel,

A friendly suggestion - you always sound as if the house is burning, the 
ceiling is collapsing , and soon enough all will be lost, unless a miracle 
happens.  While this may be true in your opinion, I can tell you that it 
doesn't have a very positive effect on the way your words are accepted by 
the users of this, or any other pro-PHP mailing list.  "If that's the 
truth, we don't want to hear it" sums it up pretty well, especially when 
most people here believe it's not the truth.

About SOAP and Web services - I agree with you that it would be very good 
to have built-in support for it in PHP.  However, suggesting this kind of 
ideas is usually pretty pointless, unless you're willing to actually do 
something about it.  I think the only time it worked in the past was when 
Sascha picked up the challenge of creating a session module for PHP, 
because PHP really needed one (kodus to Sascha on that) - but that's the 
exception to the rule.

I think Rasmus was looking into that a couple of months ago, btw.

Zeev


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