Hello,

"Sean R. Bright" wrote:
> 
> Manuel:
> 
> Is there something stopping you from implementing this?

Yes, free time to motivate me to stop working on other developments from
which I can make a living.

Another thing, it has been a while (more than 2 years) since I decided
to not dedicate my developments wholly to PHP. I have been working on a
meta-programming language that lets me write software that can be
compiled to generate code in different languages: PHP, Java, Perl,
etc... This means whatever I write in that meta-language can be used not
just withing PHP programs but also programs in other languages.
I think that constraining myself just to PHP will limit the
possibilities and the future of my software developments.

I already have some SOAP components written in this meta-language. If I
work on something that would make it easier to provide and consume Web
servers (and I have been doing some work), I will invest my time better
on doing it with this meta-language rather than something that is PHP
specific.

If you care about this meta-language, look here:
http://www.meta-language.net/ .

Anyway, notice that my suggestion was just made because Andi asked for
suggestions and I thing built-in Web services consuption support is
important for PHP and not because I have a special need for that.


Regards,
Manuel Lemos

> 
> Sean
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Manuel Lemos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 5:54 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Built-in SOAP based Web Services
> > support (wasRe:
> > PHP 5)
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Zeev Suraski wrote:
> > >
> > > At 23:30 01/01/2002, Richard Heyes wrote:
> > > > > However, suggesting this kind of
> > > > > ideas is usually pretty pointless, unless you're
> > willing to actually do
> > > > > something about it.
> > > >
> > > >Well Andi asked for discussion on ideas for php5. And
> > these suggestions imo
> > > >are not pointless, as a developer may well pick up on them
> > and start work on
> > > >them.
> > >
> > > It wasn't exactly a suggestion.  It was more like "unless
> > you do it, PHP is
> > > going to be a useless piece of crap that nobody would use;
> > if you do it -
> > > it's still pretty hopeless, but just a tiny bit less".
> >
> > Of course you may interpret it the way you want, but I described a
> > feature that PHP does not have and even suggested an implementation
> > format. Since I already noticed several people dropping PHP
> > to do simple
> > things such as consuming a Web service because there much better
> > alternatives for this purpose, I added that I am afraid that
> > this trend
> > of dropping PHP for the lack of support like this will be more evident
> > soon or later. Of course you may continue to disconsider my
> > suggestions
> > as you usually do.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Manuel Lemos
> >
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