I know this is going nowhere :) but anyway - its late here and I've got a few secs to kill....
Ask your boss, how often has he done a project using microsoft tools, and its been seriously delayed because they found a serious bug in the microsoft tools, that had to be worked around.- if he answers never i would be amazed ! Delayed = late delivery = unsatified customer = bad reputation = no more contracts! The difference with PHP (and perl,pike,python, ruby......etc), is that when there is a problem, your project is not delayed, you have full access to the source, you can find the problem, fix it and carry on with minimal delays.. - no workaround. - no code thats going to break on the next MS update! This is the core to the reason behind why all of these languages are better than c#/java - you are empowered to solve your own problems, rather than relying on 3 levels of technical support and promises that it will be fixed and wont break your code..... the logic is in the philosophy not the marketing = no seminar is ever going to solve this problem :) anyway - just one angle to try best regards alan Dave Mertens wrote: >On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 07:27:06AM -0700, brad lafountain wrote: > >>>And next week i have a special C# traning for PHP developers. Offered free by >>>Microsoft. >>> >> alls i have to say is WOW. This is one pathetic attempt by Microsoft. >> >Yeah, but are there any professional tranings for PHP? Do you hear of PHP? >That's the problem i'm facing. I think PHP is great, i really am. > >But the fact the PHP don't have a proper XML parser, only a scripting SOAP parser >makes it for my boss easy to choose for ASP/Java in stead of PHP. And what can i do >about it, absolutely nothing! >I don't have the knowledge to make PHP itself better. That why i submit as much as i >can (and allowed) to PEAR. > >Hoping that it will end as a set of foundation classes. > >But now, all new projects are done with ASP. And why? Because Microsoft has a damn >good marketing machine. >They even have now commercials for .NET! > >And about the training. Microsoft knows that PHP is getting behind and they are >saying that .NET can do almost everything what PHP can and more. >I can only say that i hope ZE2 will change this. But i have a hard time on my work >defending PHP. > >Yeah. When a company becomes a Microsoft Partner you get a lot of MS licenses for >free! Buy MSDN Universal and you get more programs for Free. >And the company i work for is a gold partner. We have 100 free licenses for XP! Why >use linux?? > >2 years ago PHP was leading egde. I hope that the ZE2 engine makes it a leading >language again. > >Dave Mertens > -- PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php