Shane also did not like the term and I can see where you all are coming
from. But I think the mailinglist should cover a broader scope than just
soap and this is usually done under the name "web services"

php-xml-based-rpc@
this could mislead to making it sound xml-rpc centric
and its not really php-rpc@ either
and this would maybe not be a name that people would immediately point
their soap answers to ...

all in all "web services" maybe a non programmers choice (maybe even
"marketing" guys choice), but do we have a better name to wrap these
technologies into?

php-webservice-tools@ might be better to make clear that this list is
more about the tools than about discussing actual web services ..

anyways I can live with php-soap@ as well ..
so who ever is in charge make the call or let the head honchos about
this topic (like shane or brad) deside what the prefer :-)

Best regards,
Lukas Smith
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:08 PM
> To: Andi Gutmans
> Cc: Shane Caraveo; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL
> 
> I really don't like the term Web Services.  SOAP is an RPC mechanism
and
> has nothing to do with the web despite what M$ would like to have you
> think.
> 
> -Rasmus
> 
> On Fri, 24 May 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote:
> 
> > As I mentioned earlier I am a big +1 for it.
> > Probably php-webservices@ is even better as it covers more and
sounds
> good :)
> >
> > Andi
> >
> > At 11:05 23/05/2002 -0700, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> > >So do we want a [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list?  I can set it
up
> if
> > >you say the word.
> > >
> > >-Rasmus
> > >
> > >On Thu, 23 May 2002, Shane Caraveo wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I would be happy to lead the effort on the soap front.  I've
spoken
> a
> > > > bit with Brad about combining our efforts but got sidetracked
over
> the
> > > > last couple weeks so haven't followed up on that.  I'm also not
sure
> > > > whether Deitrich is tied to NuSphere with his work, it'd be nice
if
> we
> > > > could get him to work on this also (I'm sure he's lurking here
;).
> > > > There have been a couple others contacting me about working on
the
> soap
> > > > stuff as well.
> > > >
> > > > Shane
> > > >
> > > > Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> > > >
> > > > pear/SOAP seems to work pretty well.  There are few people out
there
> that
> > > > know more about SOAP than Shane and I am quite comfortable
having
> him
> > > > spearheading this effort.  We can easily set up a php-soap
mailing
> list if
> > > > enough people are interested.
> > > >
> > > > -Rasmus
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 23 May 2002, Lukas Smith wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  > Yeah, I keep seeing PHP SOAP and XMLRPC being announce
packages
> > > >  > everywhere.
> > > >  > But incompatible API's will not benefit PHP much and the
efforts
> are
> > > >  > simply redundant.
> > > >  >
> > > >  > I think it would make sense to create such a mailinglist.
> > > >  > As I am still fairly busy with working on a merge of Metabase
and
> PEAR
> > > >  > DB called MDB (blatant plug :-) ) I can't spend as much time
as I
> would
> > > >  > wish on this topic.
> > > >  >
> > > >  > For now I will try to order the feedback I get and put
together a
> little
> > > >  > static page with the content.
> > > >  >
> > > >  > Basically I will take every package I find and list it there
and
> put any
> > > >  > comments people send regarding that package underneath.
> > > >  >
> > > >  > Best regards,
> > > >  > Lukas Smith
> > > >  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > >
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