At 10:28 10/12/2002, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
Zeev Suraski wrote:
> If we use this KISS approach, why the heck are we even considering this
> rename?

  1.) Using 'php' to run a PHP script from the command-line sounds like
      the right choice of name (for the sapi/cli binary).
Maybe, maybe not. I for one think it isn't, considering that PHP is a server-side language and the CLI falls outside the scope of the main project. phpsh or php-cli are much more descriptive names for me. But this discussion is beside the point, see below.

  2.) Is keeping BC worth an unintuitive for the sapi/cli binary?
Absolutely.  No quantifyable gain (I consider phpsh equally intuitive).

      Does the rename of php to php-cgi for the sapi/cgi binary really
      cause so much trouble? It requires AFAICS the change of one line
      in the Apache configuration file
Not sure what AFAICS translates to (lost you in the last 'S' in there), but that should already give you some indication that you're in the wrong direction. You have to THINK what the implications are, and you may or may not figure out all of them. Is it worth it? Absolutely not.

Fact is, we could name the PHP-CGI phpfoo 5 years ago. People get used to it, set it up that way, and other than sounding weird in the beginning, it doesn't matter much at all. The key part is that 'people get used to it'. People are used to the PHP CGI being 'php'; People will get used to the PHP-CLI regardless of the name you call it. Deriving a conclusion from those two facts should be trivial.

  3.) Why this late discussion of the issue? The name of the sapi/cgi
      binary was changed months ago!
I did not choose to raise the issue at this time, but I agree completely with the opinion that it's a bad thing; It is my fault that I haven't raised it a few months ago when I noticed this change, but as you might have noticed, I wasn't involved at php-dev back then. But either way, the fact that it was changed months ago is meaningless. It never made it to a release, and it shouldn't make it to a release, and that's the important thing in my opinion.

Zeev


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