> If you don't use a framework then obviously you are writing nothing but
> mickey mouse programs, and wouldn't stand a chance when it comes to
> writing
> a proper application. For example, I have just completed an ERP
> application
> which contains 130 database tables, 230 relationships and 1000
> transactions.
> Because I used a proper framework I managed to complete all of this in
> just
> 6 months. The framework allowed me to generate initial working components
> without having to write any code whatsoever - no PHP, no HTML and no SQL -
> so that I could spend the bulk of my time on the really important stuff,
> which is implementing the business rules. That is the benefit of a proper
> framework - it takes care of the boring repetitive stuff and leaves you
> more
> time to deal with the tricky stuff. If you think you can achieve the same
> level of productivity WITHOUT a framework then you are living in cloud
> cuckoo land.
>
> --
> Tony Marston
> <http://www.tonymarston.net>


wow! that is quite a big program u wrote. can you tell me what framework you
use
for the project. well, you have the point. but i know many open source php
out there
do not use specific framework.
not doing framework doesn't mean it is going to be a mickey mouse program.
at some
points, the code will built into a small library which someone might call it
framework anyway.
a good example is os-commerce and phpBB. I don't see any framework being use
there
except for specific coding guide lines. but the project still grow to be a
big program and
i bet the code can be over 10, 000 lines (i just guess, might not true) .
you may call the code mickey mouse but the thing is it still working fine.

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