I do use FirePHP and your project looks interesting to evaluate. Will check it out in a couple of days. It would be more interesting if they really are complimentary.

I think people who use FireBug's console API would be able to appreciate FirePHP/formaldehyde more. However, I do NOT deny the fact that not every project needs them.


--Bipin Upadhyay.

Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
So nobody here debugs interaction and nobody uses Selenium for application 
tests ... fair enough.

Would be nice to receive some response for those developers whose deal everyday 
with big/complex applications, 'cause here seems nobody i susing FirePHP or 
frameworks debuggers while numbers tell me the scenario is totally different.

Regards

Subject: RE: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP Error  Debugger
From: a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk
To: tedd.sperl...@gmail.com
CC: an_...@hotmail.com; php-general@lists.php.net
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:39:12 +0100

On Fri, 2009-09-11 at 10:35 -0400, tedd wrote:
At 3:27 PM +0200 9/11/09, Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
That's a finished production site ... how did you debug during its
development? 'Cause Formaldehyde is for development, not for
production ... I guess you have implented your own error
manager/debugger, right?
What's to debug?

The site --

http://webbytedd.com/a/ajax-site/

-- uses a very simple ajax script, namely:

http://webbytedd.com/a/ajax-site/js/a.js

Outside of that, everything else is done in php, html, and css, which
is completely separate from ajax. I can create a very extensive and
complicated site using that simple ajax routine without any
alteration whatsoever. I don't need a debugger because I never touch
the code.

Now maybe I'm not getting it, but from my perspective ajax is pretty
simple. The point I'm getting at is that ajax is simply a method of
communication -- you send stuff and you read stuff. You don't need to
rewrite the US Postal Service every time you send/receive a letter.

Cheers,

tedd
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I agree. I tend to reuse the same basic functionality whenever I use
AJAX. With some half-decent unit-testing, you can debug the Javascript
parts easily enough.

Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk




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