On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Martin Scotta <martinsco...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Arno Kuhl <ak...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dave M G [mailto:mar...@autotelic.com] > > Sent: 09 November 2009 05:36 PM > > To: firstname.lastname@example.org > > Subject: [PHP] Anyone using Aptana and Xdebug? Or other debugger > > recommendations besides Zend? > > > > PHP List, > > > > I won't go into a big rant about Zend, and instead simply say that while > I > > was using Zend Studio to debug PHP pages since version 5.0. I was never > > really all that happy with it. It seemed to be the most complete > debugging > > environment for PHP, so I put up with it. I will say that the Studio > > installation procedure has got better, but setting up a reliable > debugging > > server has not. > > > > Now, the current version of Zend Studio (7.0) is based on Eclipse (I > think > > since v6.0), and so I'm just not sure what I'm paying for anymore. > > Aptana Studio, also based on Eclipse has pretty much the exact same > > interface and can even connect to a Zend server. > > > > Since one of those is free, I can't see why I wouldn't switch. The issue > > for > > me is that paying for Zend hasn't really saved me much hassle, so even if > > Aptana has difficulties, at least they are free difficulties. > > > > The main failing point, so far as I can see, of Aptana/Xdebug, is a lack > of > > good, clear, documentation (also note that Zend doesn't have great > > documentation either). Especially on how to set it up. > > > > I was wondering if anyone has used it and could provide a link or > > instructions on how to get the debugging environment up and running. > > > > Or, equally as valuable, would be recommendations on other debugging > > environments. The key is finding one that has a clear set of instructions > > for how to set it up (On Ubuntu/Debian Linux with a local LAMP server.) > > > > Thanks for any advice. > > > > Dave M G > > -- > > > > Dave, take a look at PhpED from Nusphere. I've used the Windows version > > very > > happily for the last 6 years. There is a Linux version but I haven't > tried > > it so can't comment - from the forum I gather that most users use the > > Windows version. Debugging in PhpED is brilliant, but so is the rest of > the > > IDE. I also looked at Zend Studio every now and then over the last few > > years > > to see how it was progressing, but wasn't that impressed. > > > > Cheers > > Arno > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > Why anyone needs to buy a IDE for develop PHP code? > > You can use any text editor. > > I use SciTE. It is free and open source. > It does not provide any tool of any kind. It just allow me to write code, > and that's all I need. > > Also there are a lot of tools for development. > And IDE is just a fat text editor with lot of tools on it, and in some > cases > it can make your development slower. > > You can improve your development with a set of lightweight tools, this is > the linux style. > > -- > Martin Scotta > What do you think IDE is? Do you think you can build a real commercial application without debugging and project management tools?