Thanks to Michael, Barry, Steve, Cal and Rasmus for replies. We have just taken a contract for a dedicated server, and I tried rather hard to get it to be a Linux server. The killer for that was that we have a significantly complex site that will need to be migrated to the server which has been coded in asp - which leaves us rather stuck with Windows and IIS. I stared this hard in the face and asked questions about the cost of recoding before being reluctantly persuaded this had to be.
So that being the case, am I picking up the message that the criticisms are basically correct? ie. no-one ought to start from here, but if you're forced to use IIS (because asp won't work with anything else) then php / mysql is not going to be the way to go (xxx are proposing coldfusion / sqlserver). Thanks - Mallen >>> Michael Kimsal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/10/02 08:59pm >>> Barry C. Hawkins wrote: > Mallen, It sounds like you might have some non-technical or > open-source execs to talk to, and that a non-MS platform is not an > option (yet :^) ). If so, here are some more "managerial"-type > arrows for your quiver: > > 1.) MySQL was one of the top 2 databases in a Ziff-Davis major vendor > "shootout" recently, ranking alongside Oracle 9i. See > > http://www.mysql.com/news/index.html > > under the heading "MySQL a winner in server database clash". They > like products more if they're mentioned in the same sentence as > Oracle. Oracle was on the SuperBowl, you know. :^) > > 2.) Actually, PHP doesn't officially say that CGI is the recommended > install for IIS. They simply issue a few caveats regarding SAPI. > Check it out at: > > http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.windows.php "Officially" perhaps but I think the overwhelming consensus has been that ISAPI under Windows just didn't work. It *does* work now, as long as you don't use any third party DLLs (like MySQL, GD, etc) rendering it pretty useless. Sorry, it's just anecdotal evidence, but you'll notice that no one in the PHP camp will unequivocally say that PHP under ISAPI is solid. The silence on ISAPI speaks volumes right now. > 3.) I have nothing to offer on the search engine issue. > > Now, I know that some of what I just said will incense some folks, > because yes, ideally this poor fellow would be able to use *nix with > Apache, MySQL, and PHP. But, since he may not have that luxury, > these items might put enough "spin" on things for him to get the Open > Source items in the door. Once that initial "yes" has been given, > the subsequent steps might come more easily. If the only way to get "open source" products in the door is to have them running half-crippled (running on OSes they weren't designed for) you're giving "open source" products a bad image. No one expects ASP to run on anything but IIS (chilisoft notwithstanding). If the server HAS to be Windows, use ActiveState's Perl or something else with a company behind it and just go down that road. Having PHP run poorly under Windows will just make PHP look bad, even if it's Windows' fault. Michael Kimsal http://www.phphelpdesk.com 734-480-9961 ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php