Hello Ryan,
On 2020-04-06 00:45, Ryan Blenis wrote:
Thank you as always for your quick and in-depth response. I certainly
understand the delicate balance between FOSS and enterprise paywalls
and feature-sets, and I thank you for even having an open source
option to begin with! I'm just planning a migration to a new server
(for when my current OS is EOL) and wanted to move the hosting to one
with better support that doesn't over-provision the hosts resources as
I've seen on the current host, but HDD space isn't anywhere near as
inexpensive as it is at the current company. I was just thinking I
could have the best of both worlds with S3 storage integrated. Many of
the FOSS/enterprise paywalls in other projects are based on LDAP
integration, multi-tenancy, pre-packages binaries, support levels,
etc. that many business need, whereas object storage vs block storage
felt like more of a separate paywall in terms of cloud providers, so I
just figured I'd ask if it was coming to the FOSS version. Also, I
it's ok to ask, and I always appreciate the feedback from piler users.
Btw. can you share the names of these 2 providers? I'm curious about
their pricing. And perhaps the piler community may suggest some better
alternatives both in terms of hw performance and storage pricing.
like to be able to modify the code if a customization can be made,
which I assume would not be the case with enterprise, correct?
Not sure if you fix the C source code before compiling. If not, then
it's probably not a big deal that you can't modify the enterprise
edition
binaries. However, the gui part is still the usual php based stuff,
it's not obfuscated, so you can fix it if you really want to do that.
It's your archive after all. Custom css is supported out of the box.
Also, if I try the enterprise on the new host, is there a path to
downgrade to the FOSS version? Or would starting back from scratch be
the only option?
Unfortunately no. The enterprise edition handles attachments in a
different
way: it doesn't need the attachment table to retrieve the message with
its
attachments. However, it's incompatible with the open source version.
So if you decide later that it's not what you want then you should
export
all emails, install the open source edition, and import those emails.
Though, I'm confident that you'll like it, it's not inferior to the
open source edition.
Janos SUTO
On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 7:16 AM <s...@acts.hu> wrote:
Hello Ryan,
On 2020-04-05 10:55, Ryan Blenis wrote:
I see the enterprise version you offer it says one of the features
piler has is S3 object storage, which looks like it was originally
requested on the mailing list in 2018:
https://www.mail-archive.com/piler-user@list.acts.hu/msg01335.html
Does this mean that it is fully implemented now? And if so, will
we
yes, it's fully implemented by now.
ever see this in the open source version? Given the lower prices
on S3
compatible storage versus block storage and the unchanging nature
of
the files, this would be great to have as an option that can
reduce
hosting costs from what is now being used for [comparatively]
expensive block storage.
well, I've been thinking about it for a while, and still not
decided,
it's a difficult business decision, so let me share my current
position
on the matter.
TL;DR: not in the near future.
I'm really proud that the open source edition has gained a pretty
nice
traction, and I decided to somehow monetize its popularity.
So I've forked piler and built an enterprise edition along with some
commercial
services. To make the enterprise edition successful, I must offer
some
features
that are worth to pay for that is not available for free in the open
source edition.
I believe that the S3 storage support you asked for is such an
attractive feature,
so I'll keep it for the enterprise edition only, not sure how long.
However, I'm well aware of that the S3 costs are significantly lower
than block
storage costs at cloud hosting companies. I encourage you to try the
enterprise
edition, and see if it works for you. If so, and you like it, then
perhaps we
could figure out something viable to make the transition from open
source to
enterprise. I'd like to emphasize that I don't want to force you in
this
direction,
and it's totally ok to decline.
Let me know what you (and other piler users as well) think about the
matter.
Janos
