Shawn Walker wrote:
> Dave Miner wrote:
>> Dan Price wrote:
>>> On Fri 25 Jul 2008 at 07:57PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>> As I said in the bug report, I hate having to do this, but I hate
>>>>> bricking people's systems even more.
>>>> Perhaps we do need to do this now but do we know from either Ethan
>>>> and/or Jan where we are with
>>>>
>>>>    1979 libbe: be_activate needs to run installgrub
>>>>    http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=1979
>>>>
>>>> as I think it would be obviously better to just fix the issue. :-)
>>>>
>>>> I suppose refering to a URL on opensolaris.org is fine although I'm
>>>> wondering if it's time to begin delivering knowledge articles under
>>>> sun.com/msg.
>>> Brock pointed out to me that current users won't get this message
>>> anyway, since they won't be running the bits that contain the
>>> message if they just type 'image-update' without first updating
>>> their packaging bits to get the new 'pkg' which contains the
>>> message.
>>>
>>> I was specifically designing this for the *next* nasty flag day,
>>> not for the one we have now.  Although, if we were going to e.g.
>>> issue an updated 2008.05 based ISO, then it'd be nice to get this
>>> fix in there.
>>>
>> We are, that's the back-to-school thing, and it is expected to be in 
>> there.  The intention is to replace the main download image with that one.
>>
>> However, I agree that we are likely to continue to run into flag-day 
>> issues occasionally, and it would be nice to have a way to notify users 
>> of them more directly.  I'm not sure the generic "review the notes" 
>> message is going to do it, though; can we use the feed stuff that 
>> Shawn's adding in some way here to get more specific and perhaps make 
>> the message only appear when we believe there's a reason?
> 
> There is a critical update flag based on "critical actions" in the 
> manifest of a package that causes the rss feed to indicate an entry for 
> a related update was critical.  However, I'm guessing it wasn't intended 
> to be used for "flag days."  In addition, while the feed supports it, we 
> currently don't have any actions that get marked as critical.
> 
> Either way, it seems like we need a tag or attribute for a pkg that 
> indicates that such an update is a major event for the build version 
> tree that it is part of.  The rss feed could do something appropriate 
> with it and the client could take advantage of it as well.
> 
> You'd have to expound on exactly what you think the feed might do in 
> response...
> 

I was thinking that the data included in such a flag day would  be 
leveraged across the feed (so that those who are just subscribed to it 
out of interest) as well as the pkg CLI & GUI.  Although the mention 
that someone (David?) made of using knowledge articles could just mean 
that the data is a link to that content.

Dave
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