Dear Daniel,

* Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro> [2015-09-30 09:38:07 CEST]:
> On 29/09/15 20:25, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > we (ftpmasters) expect you to update packages in bpo regulary during the
> > whole lifetime of a suite, if you are not able to do that, the package is 
> > not
> > suitable for bpo.
> 
> Some of the node-* packages change quite frequently and I don't
> personally have time to test every one of them every time they release
> and backport them too.

 "Regularly" doesn't mean every update that hits testing.  In some
development steps it might make a lot of sense to wait for a later
upload in a bigger picture, so to say.

 But if you feel like taking regular care of the packages you backport
is too much of a trouble I suggest you to please, with sugar on top, NOT
upload them in the first place.  backports is a service that is meant to
be used in addition to stable, and thus should be taken care of in a
useful and sensible way.  That is:

 -) do not upload packages that aren't in testing (there are exceptions
to this, but in general those are rather rare than the default and it
would be convenient to ask beforehand)

 -) do not upload packages that are neither in testing nor in unstable!
Sorry, but that is absolutely off.  When you want to have a certain
middle step of a package uploaded to backports, hold back the unstable
upload until it transitioned to testing before updating unstable, making
the version you backport from disappear ...

> When I update JSCommunicator, as upstream developer, I test with a set
> of dependencies, including JsSIP and its dependencies, and everything
> that I've tested and validated is then uploaded to Debian (both unstable
> and eventually backports).  This involves testing standalone
> JSCommunicator, testing DruCall, testing on rtc.debian.org and testing
> each major browser on Linux and Android.  It is not feasible for me to
> repeat all of that every time a node-* package changes though.

 Backports is not your test field.  You are pushing the testing towards
users of an expected stable system which isn't acceptable, no matter how
feasible you consider it.

> I've uploaded a 1.0.19-1~bpo8+1 build corresponding to the version in
> testing, 1.0.19-1, this will work with the other packages that have
> already been accepted into jessie-backports yesterday.

 Thanks.  And if you want to stay in the ACL file, whenever you try to
do something out of the line, speak to us beforehand, don't let us
stumble upon it like this because that doesn't help us to be convinced
that you should be able to upload to backports directly without anyone
else involved.  You can find us in #debian-backports on irc which I know
you do use at least at times.

 So long,
Rhonda
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