2017-08-30 11:50 GMT+02:00 Philip Hands <p...@hands.com>:

> Jérémy Lal <kapo...@melix.org> writes:
> > 2017-08-29 21:39 GMT+02:00 Didier 'OdyX' Raboud <o...@debian.org>:
> >
> >> Le mardi, 29 août 2017, 17.46:22 h CEST Thorsten Glaser a écrit :
> >> > Leave /usr/bin/nodejs there for at least one more release.
> >>
> >> I'll just note for the purpose of the TC discussion that as of nodejs
> >> 6.11.2~dfsg-3 (the version currently in unstable) , the /usr/bin/nodejs
> →
> >> node
> >> symlink still exists, so at this point, I don't consider there is
> material
> >> for
> >> a TC decision either way, but it's an important conversation to be had.
> >>
> >> Jérémy: could you maybe clarify your plan and your rationale? This would
> >> help
> >> putting everyone on common grounds.
> >>
> >
> > I replaced /usr/bin/nodejs by /usr/bin/node, and made a symlink from
> > /usr/bin/nodejs to /usr/bin/node.
> > My plan was to simply keep /usr/bin/nodejs around for some time until
> > no debian package rely on it. The JavaScript debian team wiki is updated
> > to reflect that.
> I was against the TC instructing you how to behave in detail in our
> resolution, because I couldn't imagine that anyone would think that
> tidiness was more important than not breaking things for our users.
> Are you really going to prove me wrong?
> How much is it costing you to keep the symlink there?
> Do you expect that cost to ever exceed the effort of responding to even
> the first bug reported about this, when you turn out to have broken
> someone's locally-written script?
> Actually, do you expect it to ever exceed the effort already wasted in
> responding to this thread by you and us?
> It's pretty clear that if you do decide to go ahead and remove
> /usr/bin/nodejs quickly, that someone is likely to kick the matter back
> up to the TC.
> I for one will have absolutely no sympathy with your side of the case at
> that point, not only because I think it is senseless, but also because
> you'll have been responsible for wasting the time of all involved.
> I will also not be even slightly timid about micro-managing you the
> second time around, since if that comes to pass you'll have demonstrated
> the need.

Maybe i didn't express myself properly: the idea is to keep /usr/bin/nodejs
until it's no longer needed - be it other debian packages or other user
If it was to be really removed, it shouldn't be done without some
warning and time for users to notice and change their code.

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