Your message dated Sat, 29 Nov 2014 09:35:40 -0500 with message-id <6329991.9dq0ncmp26@kitterman-optiplex-9020m> and subject line Re: Bug#766928 closed by Scott Kitterman <deb...@kitterman.com> (Re: Bug#766928: Uninstallable as it depends on systemd) has caused the Debian Bug report #766928, regarding Uninstallable as it depends on systemd to be marked as done.
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--- Begin Message --------BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Package: k3b Version: 2.0.2-8 Severity: important Version 2.0.2-8 is uninstallable now as it pulls in the full systemd that will never ever end on any of my systems. Version 2.0.2-7.1 was fine. - -- System Information: Debian Release: jessie/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (800, 'unstable'), (110, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Foreign Architectures: i386 Kernel: Linux 3.17.1 (SMP w/8 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=de_DE, LC_CTYPE=de_DE (charmap=ISO-8859-1) (ignored: LC_ALL set to de_DE) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen <kl...@ethgen.de> Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJUTXugAAoJEKZ8CrGAGfasB4QL/1PhpG0Lp9f4I9KJqyl0RtPT B1cSL8Fjk+MyQxL+yLxgQbt71UjhYeIctnuxdTcmW4PXeg5xSjA4JUefq/3/1UjO uh8yXMIXNIpTHsPKf7uWK8vCjr/fqSBgnW9kNbwgU0CfWhBhnP7lPAxx2jzMWAxo vuJ4MjHl3OCm9gFNFSpBQrxQRrIHrqWDB/BpA0w37Zcja3BR8jdAXAwh9nXLj/eR FUlDa3lbOE+S6Ump+OYEK1EShkMa8LqrkXiTjREOGoCAEB5We798MZ9ycKfrHIv1 o1YixPGvw1xm9kGTmAoGmk4UxFBiFPd7fJvgMl5oFkzab/EAEIkhUFAJnxe4jj6B c0oNCBHEaPTybnfJLRu0dGJ2Zmw9FQUnFvi8h6TBB1Wlvo3MbNCgiMU1PvsV1R6f OXkiTddNQ7wlZUaEMyhbleXSVtVFce3uBLYEYY0IrIiGTKjNi2DhBJTxwLWAWcU+ V0mC4Z3MzEVWe+Hcxvs2pyUPdKgbwDRPKy1nYxYqXA== =MdHh -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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--- Begin Message ---On Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:49:37 AM Klaus Ethgen wrote: > > > Am Mo den 27. Okt 2014 um 18:03 schrieb Ralf Jung: > > > > > Not really a k3b issue. k3b needs udisks2 for reliable operation, > > > > > so > > > > adding > > > > > > > the missing dependency is correct for k3b. If there's an issue > > > > > here, > > > > then > > > > > > > it's with udisk2's dependencies. Reassigning. > > > > > > > > It's also factually wrong, k3b can be installed without installing > > > > systemd. I can run the following on my system: > > > > > > > > $ sudo aptitude -s install systemd-sysv- sysvinit-core systemd-shim > > > > k3b > > > > > > > > which clearly shows that there's no hard dependency from k3b to > > > > systemd-sysv. > > > > > > There is: k3b -> udisks2 -> libpam-systemd -> systemd > > > > > > Hard dependency to systemd for no reason. > > > > > > Please fix that issue. It is easy to fix as the dependency to udisks2 is > > > not needed (maybe lowering it to recommended). > > > > Sigh. No. You aren't correct: > > > > Package: libpam-systemd > > Depends: libc6 (>= 2.17), libcap2 (>= 1:2.10), libpam0g (>= 0.99.7.1), > > systemd (= 215-7), libpam-runtime (>= 1.0.1-6), dbus, systemd-shim (>= > > 8-2) | systemd- sysv > > > > Note the alternative depends on systemd-sysv. If you install systemd-sysv > > then there's no systemd pulled in. Don't open the bug again. This has > > already been investigated and there's no systemd dependency. > > You are not correct, sorry, I did not speak about the part at the end. > Let me highlight the relevant part: > Package: libpam-systemd > Depends: libc6 (>= 2.17), libcap2 (>= 1:2.10), libpam0g (>= 0.99.7.1), > systemd (= 215-7), libpam-runtime (>= 1.0.1-6), dbus, systemd-shim (>= 8-2) > | systemd-sysv > _______________________________________________________________________^^^^ > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > (sorry for the overlong line.) > > As you can see, the part at the end is totally useless as the package > depends for a full blown systemd. Yes. You end up with systemd installed and I did speak imprecisely. While systemd is installed, if you install systemd-shim then systemd will not be the running init system, you will still have sysv init. I'm asking you again: Please don't reopen the bug. Playing bug status ping pong with maintainers isn't something that's acceptable in Debian. Scott K
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