At 08:10 PM 9/21/2002 +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> >Perhaps a checkmark option to turn it off in the install, but
> realistically for manpower in MSW
> >and keeping things properly up to date, there can't be even more
> packages unless some more
> >people are willing to roll up their sleeves. Do you volunteer?
>
>I wish I could, but I'm afraid I'm not more than an average MSW user. I
>cannot even use the comand-line plucker, cause I cannot get it working and
>I don't know how to
>do it.
I am an experienced Windows user AND developer, and have even written
programs for Linux (and OS/2, CP/M, C64, etc.) And yet I spent probably
five hours trying to get an MSW dev environment that would allow me to
build Plucker... or any part there-of... and failed. I've got CygWin up,
gcc up, Palm's dev kit, got the emulator running, but I'm still completely
unable to run a make.
Part of this is due to a stunning lack of project setup documentation, and
another part is perhaps because cygwin/gcc under Windows is not my native
world. gcc under Linux is fine, but under Windows I tend to use Visual
C++, because that's what you get paid to use. But it's also because there
is dependency upon dependancy, such as for autoconfig which in turn
requires perl....
Anyhow, so I poked around further inside. Correct me if I'm wrong but
there's actually very little C++ in the Plucker project...
The Palm viewers are C, and the Exploder/UnPlucker are C++, and that's
pretty much it.
The Parser is mostly Python, perhaps with some Perl mixed in.
The Conduit is Pascal?!?
Plucker Desktop is C++, but isn't a formal part of Plucker. I started to
try to convert it to VC++, and quickly ran into a few barriers such as it
requiring wxWindows. Even after installing and compiling wxWindows, there
are a lot of compile errors... maybe later.
So it looks like potential new team members who work on the dominant
Windows tools are pretty effectively frozen out of helping on the team
until they've decided which element (and resulting language) and done a
fair amount of effort to set-up their system for it. Linux users are
bang-in, but ex-Linux-users who don't live/breathe/die cygwin/gcc are cast out.
Am I understanding all of this? Mischaracterizing any of it?
Tony McNamara
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