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> *** I cannot understand why those who seem to have so much experience,
> cannot be more tolerant of others.
Unfortunately, this isn't about tolerance, it's about etiquette.
> This problem is so non-obvious, and many many people are totally unaware
> of it.
This problem would never be tolerated in a face-to-face conversation
among people, so why do you think that the same basic rules don't apply when
that conversation is occuring over a text interface instead of audio or
visual?
Using a message in a thread as a template for a completely unrelated
message on a different topic is wrong, and will not be tolerated by most
people, including Mike, myself, and others. It's annoying, rude, and lazy.
This is not a "non-obvious" problem at all, it's common sense. Get a
real mail client that can handle visually threading messages, and you'll see
exactly how annoying it can be.
> Why, then, attack those that make a mistake, especially those like you,
> and I, who are prepared to do it their way, once we discover it?
Nobody attacked anyone, it's just that we keep revisiting the same
issues over and over and over again, that it bears repeating, and for some,
they just don't seem to get it the first five times.
Many of us have been sending email for two decades or more, every
day, thousands of messages a week, on many dozens of lists, personal mail,
and otherwise. After being frustrated with the onslaught of mail, some of
which may be incorrectly sent (via the "hijacked template" method, or "top
posting"), it gets to the point where you just don't want to bother seeing
it, hence the blacklist idea.
This doesn't blacklist you from posting, it just blacklists you from
being seen by a particular person reading mail. It's akin to the "twit
filter" common in usenet. It affects you exactly zero percent.
If you happen to be one of the people who is blacklisted, you can
take it as a hint to investigate why, and consider amending your email
habits, or simply ignore it.
> *** and please, can we forget this and go back to discussing Plucker.
> That's why we are all here, are we not?
This is related to Plucker, and discussing Plucker. Let's just make
the etiquette clear, identify ways to correct it, provide solutions, and
move on.
d.
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