At 10:29 PM 10/13/2002  -0400, David A. Desrosiers wrote:
>         Again, news is not email, they are very different beasts, though the
>message is conveyed in a similar fashion. But since you insist, I refer you
>to the FAQ about quoting style in newsgroups from news.newusers.questions:
>
>         http://web.presby.edu/~nnqadmin/nnq/nquote.html
>         http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html#ss2.3

David, you focus on FAQs that agree with you.  Yeah, and if everyone I know 
voted for Gore, that proves that nobody really voted for Bush and the votes 
were fraudulent, no?  Learn some logic!  Besides, the FAQs carry no 
automatic weight if not referenced at the 
http://www.plkr.org/index.pl/contact and 
http://lists.rubberchicken.org/mailman/listinfo  pages.

         The problem isn't with the headers, it's with the careless users
>ignoring the fact that Replying to a message, removing anything relevant,
>and using it as a template for a new message on a completely unrelated
>subject is rude and annoying, not to mention incorrect.
>
>         Here's a simple rule: If you have nothing to add to an existing
>message, do not hit reply. Simple logic.

I notice that you never simply answer the question, David.  Much later in 
the message, inline with my suggestions for a FAQ, you corrected one by 
pointing me at the RFC2822.  Perhaps you could learn a bit more about 
communication and point that out in your responses rather than just saying 
"It's rude and annoying".

For lurkers, what David is apparently abjectly incapable of expressing is 
that email includes a "References" header that lists previous message IDs 
(Header "Message-Id") such that the emails may be 
"threaded".  Consequently, hitting "Reply" will automatically chain your 
message into the thread by copying the previous "References" (if any) and 
adding the message ID to which you are responding, regardless of what you 
do to the subject or other headers.   I generally don't see "threaded" 
email views (i.e. even if they were available to me, I never looked at 
them) and I presume more people are like me than like David... certainly 
his recent battles over this supports my surmise... so this is an important 
and new relevation to quite possibly more than a few of us.

David, no matter how often and repeatedly you are rude and dogmatic to 
those not following your standards, it won't convey the reasons and change 
their behavior nearly as quickly as simply stating the above 
would.  Certainly your bizarre suggestion that people would figure this out 
by reading previous posts suggests a surreal disconnect from reality... if 
you don't KNOW about the threading problem, how on earth would you discern 
the connection to "reply" from reading the archives on Plucker?!?

         Tony McNamara

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