'coo' is supposed to read 'cool' as in not shorts temperature

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Michael <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm just about to take a reading and then run stress again. It is pretty
> coo, in here so not sure if a fan would do any good.
>  $ sensors
> radeon-pci-0100
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1:        +74.5°C
>
> k10temp-pci-00c3
> Adapter: PCI adapter
> temp1:        +51.6°C  (high = +70.0°C)
>                        (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>
> want me to crash it now?
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:30 PM, Brien Dieterle <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Well, those temperatures are not that hot, but that doesn't mean some
>> cooling wouldn't improve things.
>> Have you popped the case off and pointed a big fan in there and tried to
>> reproduce the crash yet?
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Here is around 180 seconds of readings at around 10 second intervals (if
>>> it helps):
>>>
>>>  $ sensors
>>> radeon-pci-0100
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +74.5°C
>>>
>>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +51.5°C  (high = +70.0°C)
>>>                        (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>>
>>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>>> radeon-pci-0100
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +75.5°C
>>>
>>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +51.0°C  (high = +70.0°C)
>>>                        (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>>
>>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>>> radeon-pci-0100
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +75.5°C
>>>
>>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +51.0°C  (high = +70.0°C)
>>>                        (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>>
>>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>>> radeon-pci-0100
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +75.5°C
>>>
>>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +51.4°C  (high = +70.0°C)
>>>                        (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>>
>>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>>> radeon-pci-0100
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +75.0°C
>>>
>>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +51.2°C  (high = +70.0°C)
>>>                        (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>>
>>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>>> radeon-pci-0100
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +75.5°C
>>>
>>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +51.0°C  (high = +70.0°C)
>>>                        (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>>
>>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>>> radeon-pci-0100
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +75.5°C
>>>
>>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +51.5°C  (high = +70.0°C)
>>>                        (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>>
>>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>>> radeon-pci-0100
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +75.0°C
>>>
>>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +50.9°C  (high = +70.0°C)
>>>                        (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>>
>>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>>> radeon-pci-0100
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +75.5°C
>>>
>>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +53.6°C  (high = +70.0°C)
>>>                        (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>>
>>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>>> radeon-pci-0100
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +75.0°C
>>>
>>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +52.4°C  (high = +70.0°C)
>>>                        (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>>
>>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>>> radeon-pci-0100
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +75.0°C
>>>
>>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +51.8°C  (high = +70.0°C)
>>>                        (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>>
>>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>>> radeon-pci-0100
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +74.5°C
>>>
>>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +51.1°C  (high = +70.0°C)
>>>                        (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>>
>>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>>> radeon-pci-0100
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +74.5°C
>>>
>>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +51.0°C  (high = +70.0°C)
>>>                        (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>>
>>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>>> radeon-pci-0100
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +74.5°C
>>>
>>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +52.0°C  (high = +70.0°C)
>>>                        (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>>
>>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>>> radeon-pci-0100
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +74.0°C
>>>
>>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +50.6°C  (high = +70.0°C)
>>>                        (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>>
>>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>>> radeon-pci-0100
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +74.5°C
>>>
>>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +51.4°C  (high = +70.0°C)
>>>                        (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>>
>>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>>> radeon-pci-0100
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +75.0°C
>>>
>>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +51.8°C  (high = +70.0°C)
>>>                        (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>>
>>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>>> radeon-pci-0100
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +75.0°C
>>>
>>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>> temp1:        +51.9°C  (high = +70.0°C)
>>>                        (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Brien Dieterle <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 30 mins is plenty for a test.  Try to get sensors output just before a
>>>> crash
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> how long do you want me to run glmark2 for? Forever is not feasible!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> as for the shutoff point everything that had anything to do with
>>>>>> cutting power was already diabled
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  $ sensors
>>>>>>> radeon-pci-0100
>>>>>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>>>>>> temp1:        +68.0°C
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>>>>>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>>>>>> temp1:        +45.1°C  (high = +70.0°C)
>>>>>>>                        (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Brien Dieterle <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, it might be protecting your computer but if it is too low it
>>>>>>>> will just be annoying.
>>>>>>>> You still need to run sensors and get those numbers if you haven't
>>>>>>>> yet:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/15832/how-do-i-get-the-cpu-t
>>>>>>>> emperature
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If your machine is legitimately overheating you need to address
>>>>>>>> that with fans and ventilation, etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> if there is a shutoff point you did say disable it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Brien Dieterle <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, you're on the right track.  Try to isolate whether glmark
>>>>>>>>>> alone can crash it, or if you need stress as well.   Then try 
>>>>>>>>>> opening up
>>>>>>>>>> your case and point a fan in there.
>>>>>>>>>> Also don't forget to check the BIOS for thermal management events
>>>>>>>>>> that might be causing the shutdown/reboot.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Michael <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> never mind..... I ran glmark around 5 minutes and then stress.
>>>>>>>>>>> that crashed the machine! Not a nice reboot (like what it does with 
>>>>>>>>>>> dt) but
>>>>>>>>>>> a power failure outage,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Michael <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and if glmark2 doesn't crash it run stress the same amount of
>>>>>>>>>>>> time?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Michael <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how long do I let glmark2's pretty horse rotate?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Michael <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> okay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> `
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Brien Dieterle <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd wait.   If stress alone doesn't crash, run glmark2 by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself.  If glmark2 doesn't crash, run them both at the same 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Michael <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run this now or after stress completes?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Brien Dieterle <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, not yet ;-).   If it doesn't crash, you might need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to stress the graphics card as well with one of these tools:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pcsuggest.com/gpu-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> benchmarking-and-stress-testing-in-linux/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So maybe kick off both stress and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> glmark2 --run-forever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Michael <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if it doesn't crash I'll start hounding the darktable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forums.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:45 PM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just started..... lets see what happens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Brien Dieterle <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forget darktable for now.  Did you run stress test for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than 10 seconds?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This will run a stress test for 30 minutes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2  --hdd 2 --timeout 1800s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can get it to crash with just this stress
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program, then it has nothing to do with darktable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no sensors running and as for it panicing when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warm sometimes it panics after I run dt 2 minutes after 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it had been shut
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down an hour  and doesn't panic even though dt had run10 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Brien Dieterle <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check your bios settings for hardware monitoring and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature limits.  You may have it set with a maximum 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature so the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine panics when it's just warm.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try raising this number or disabling the feature
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entirely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But first check your sensors by installing a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature monitoring program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2017 1:04 PM, "Michael" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is sooo ify! I just ran it for like 10 minutes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with no crashes whereas before I had just started the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer and ran dt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for 2 minutes and it crashed. Then I restarted and I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had a repeat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance of the 2 minute thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  $ stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --vm-bytes 128M
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --timeout 10s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress: info: [7571] dispatching hogs: 8 cpu, 4 io,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 vm, 0 hdd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress: info: [7571] successful run completed in 10s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  I don't know what that was suppossed to tell me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but there it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am experiencing no slowness. It is like the days
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where you had a power switch on the back of your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer... or it is like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a hard reboot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Stephen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Partington <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenCL in darktable mainly impacts rendering. it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should have no effect on on system or ram 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consumption unless you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiencing slowness during render cycles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know.... I'm having trouble running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> darktable. It seems that after I start it it runs a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few minutes and then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reboots the computer. Probably because I do not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a GPU (I don't think).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then I saw this thread and thought that I'd give 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that a try. So it seems I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can not run chrome and darktable at the same time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ___
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'lspci' shows that my graphics card is :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV770 [Radeon HD 4850]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 'lspci|grep gpu' returned an empty set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (if I did that correctly)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so I suppose the cheapest way to fix this is to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a gpu.... correct?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Carruth, Rusty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my experience, it’s almost always Firefox
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking all of memory. (Or Chrome, or whatever web 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browser you’re using).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with Mr B, run top or htop and see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what’s, well, on top ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rusty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* PLUG-discuss [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]] *On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Michael Butash
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 29, 2017 10:05 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: computer slow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I ever have that, it's usually because of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something with a memory leak, or desktop graphic 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compositing is degrading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before you reboot, see if you can ssh into it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from another computer and check htop (or just top 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all you have), see if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something is consuming all your memory or cpu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Desktop compositors are all shite from what I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can tell (including windoze), they're all just a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> varying degree of broken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when you push them, or just have a slow (or buggy) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video card.  Depending
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on your desktop environment of choice, try turning 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down graphics options,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or disabling the compositor all together to see if 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it helps stability.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -mb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 3:41 AM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm almost certain that in my bag of tricks I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had instructions on 'resetting' my computer when 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it started acting weird
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I can't find them. Riddle me this: I try to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leave the computer on 24/7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (maybe I shouldn't do that) and twice so far I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come up to it and it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-responsive or really slow to respond. Anyone 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know how to fix this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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