Greetings!

        this concerns me as well...i keep getting this doomsday 
scenario: with everybody using these tools, and then one faithful 
day these tools fail, or get wiped off the face of the earth -- with no 
one being able to debug or receate them. Kind of like living in a 
world with cars, and no one knowing how to fix them.

        ....then again, by that time we might have more urgent 
problems na B).

        But i guess the trend these days is lower time to market(tama 
ba?) i.e. bring products to market faster...hence these tools





On 15 Aug 00, at 8:26, Rafael R. Sevilla wrote:

> 
> On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Rogelio M. Serrano Jr. wrote:
> 
> > 
> > That is one advantage microsoft has over linux. Users never get to see
> > the failures and problems of software development. They dont even see
> > how it was made(and the horrible kludges very badly needed to meet
> > deadlines). Even programmers who use microsoft tools never experience
> > the difficulties and challenges micrsosoft developers go through like
> > everyone else developing system and development software. Thats what
> > users pay big bucks for. Thats why microsoft windows programmers do
> > not got through as much difficulty developing programs because
> > microsoft developers already did almost all of the programming for
> > them.
> > 
> 
> This worries me.  I suppose most of you people read that article on
> salon.com about the dumbing-down of programming.  Increasingly,
> "programming", especially on Windows boxes, consists of stringing together
> pieces of code written by other people, treating them as black boxes,
> rather than the sort of programming where you actually make something
> other than the equivalent of what we hardware guys call glue logic.
> Arguably, this is gradually becoming more and more true under Linux as
> well (OOP and component architectures encourage this trend), but at least
> here most of the code that you have to string together is free software,
> so you don't *have* to treat it as a black box.  If there are bugs in
> other peoples' code, you're not stuck trying find a way to work around
> them.  You can fix them yourself.
> 
> And arguably, developers on M$ systems *do* increasingly see the
> difficulties and challenges the microserfs had to go through to make the
> tools they're using.  Most development work under Windows, other than
> writing glue, consists of working around bugs left over from development.
> 
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