salamat po.
On 8/31/06, jan gestre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 8/31/06, Dean Michael Berris < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On 8/31/06, jan gestre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > There's more English than Filipino on TV.
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> where? HBO of course! if you're talking about cable tv, i'm sure you're not
> a fan of local shows that's why you say that.
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Channel 23, ABS-CBN. The World Tonight. Your local talk show host
talks english more than 80% of the time.
who watches these shows? intellects like you? and what do you think is the percentage of people watching these shows you mentioned, maybe less than 1%? i have to ask ac nielsen for the correct figures.Only WOwowee and Eat Bulaga use Filipino -- and that's not even the
true Filipino but a Taglish mish-mash of phrases.
you want to talk numbers? how many people out a hundred watches these shows over the mass oriented shows like eat bulaga? translate that to figures, maybe 1 to 10,000? 1:1,100,000?> > Illiterates understand Filipino? Yeah, right... Illiterates where?
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> would you like to meet some? i can bring some for you to meet personally.
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Go to your neighborhood slums and say "Magandang Araw Sa Iyo, Wari Mo
Ba'y Maganda ang Wangis ng Aking Mukha?" and you'll get a blank stare
and maybe get someone laugh at you.
i want to laugh at first when you said that i go meet every bisaya out there, thinking you was just making fun but then on second thought you're not. who in their right frame of mind would go to slums and say this "Magandang Araw Sa Iyo, Wari Mo Ba'y Maganda ang Wangis ng Aking Mukha?" they would either laugh at you coz they think you're crazy, or worst throw things at you for coz you're disturbing their peace.Have you checked what Filipino really is? It's not Tagalog. It's not
Batangas "Ala eh" tagalog, not even Cavite Tagalog. It's not even the
Tagalog you use at home.
i'm no expert linguist but in imo the filipino language is not pure tagalog although 90% of it are, it is really a mix of all the dialects including indian and spanish wordsSo the next time you say "Illiterates understand Filipino" and
generalize from a sample that you yourself have encountered, think
again.
i've met all kinds of people from all walks of life, you need not know how to write and read in order for you to understand filipino, it's like saying that illiterates americans don't understand english, same with all the other nationalities.> > And did you notice that the media giants have regional stations that
> > broadcast the news in the local dialect?
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of course i do, didn't i already mentioned it that i've been as far as mindanao, they do have tv sets you know.>
> it is during intermissions or commercial that they use the local dialects,
> i've recently been to cebu just last week and watch tv during at the hotel
> where there is no cable tv, they don't dub or even have a local dialect
> subtitle in any of the programs.
>
Have you tried checking the local regional channels of ABS-CBN? I was
in Bicol, and the news were being delivered by a lady on the local
channel using their language there (which I cannot understand).
the kind of shows you like to watch are those most common people don't watch at all.> > And have you met *every* bisaya and talked to them in straight
> > Filipino? Good luck with that.
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> of course i won't be able to meet all of them, hello?
Then you can't really say that the Bisaya can undestand Filipino, right?
even the SWS don't get the survey results by talking to every filipino, right? duh!> i can talk to them in
> straight filipino and they can fully understand what i told them,
Are these the educated ones, or are these also the illiterates that
you speak of? I've met one too many people from the Visayas region who
cannot understand Filipino, much less Tagalog. Since there is a
handful of them that can't, you can't say everyone does.
of course they are educated one's, i did not went to the visayas just to have a chit chat, i went there to conduct a training.It's logic really. Since you haven't talked to every Bisaya in
straight Filipino and have them understand you perfectly, then I guess
your predicate doesn't hold does it?
what logic? your kind of logic? if it is then SWS and PULSE Asia will go bankrupt, nobody can finance that kind of business.
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