On Sun, 2007-12-09 at 08:22 -0800, Michael Tinsay wrote:
> Is the other computer on Smart Bro?  I missed that.
> But first, you'll have to get the public Internet address of both 
> ends, or at least one.  Chances are, each computer is connected 
> to an Internet router/gateway.  Better give us more details 
> of your setup.

The OP needs to clarify first if, in fact, both ISPs really give
him private IPs.  it might just be that he's looking at the
IP his router gives him, which would be a private IP on the inside
of his LAN rather than the outside facing public IP address.

That said though, I've seen some setups where it's NOT POSSIBLE 
to get a public internet address.  oh, you can figure out what 
the public address is (e.g., by going to one of those websites 
that tells you what your IP is, or by surfing to grc.com and 
having it run a portscan). It's just that, the ISP seems to 
be doing NAT (perhaps to conserve IPs, but possibly also to 
block low end broadband users from using their connections for 
hosting servers) and the ISP won't do port forwarding (or maybe
they do, but the tech support is incompetent and knows nothing
about that, likely though port forwarding would be too much
trouble and you'd just never do it).

If both of the OP's ISPs are doing that (NAT), then he's SOL 
since he definitely needs at least one endpoint to be publicly
accessible and it's not likely that two different ISPs are 
peering those private IPs to each other.

> As far as VPN is concerned, you have a number of options:SSL VPN, 
> IPsec and PPTP.  This is the order of my recommendation.  

I prefer openvpn.  stupid simple to install (something that can't
be said about IPsec, although I haven't tried SSL VPN) and more
secure than PPTP (at least, when I last looked at PPTP, 4 years 
or so ago, things might have improved by now).  openvpn also has 
UDP and TCP modes (very useful for restarting VPN connections that
timeout when the external IP on one side of the link changes due to
DHCP lease expiration or similar.  TCP is useful if you can't use
UDP for some reason (e.g., openvpn can be tunneled through squid
or other httpd proxies if only http traffic is allowed to connect
outward).

usually, for the simplest connections (e.g., just share one or two
services between two subnets), I just setup ssh port forwarding. but
if more than that needs to be shared, openvpn is very convenient.

tiger

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