I've been dealing with Drupal (and Wordpress, phpbb, etc.) for a few years
now and I realized one thing.

Websites are meant to grow. They're like living things that evolve and
change and so what you may have thought would've been enough at the start
suddenly isn't good enough anymore.

I know this is a very forest vs. trees point of view, but I felt I needed to
say that before getting into the nitty gritty. Basically what I'm saying is,
from observation, what may start out as a simple blog, forum, and yes, wiki,
will eventually require things like user profiles, taxonomy (and related
ways to categorize and differentiate content), ability to handle more varied
types of content, comment handling etc.

Drupal has turned out for me, the most scalable solution of the lot. You can
start it out as a simple blog (or even board or wiki) and then later add
more stuff using the same foundation. I'm willing to bet this thinking
applies to wikis as well.

Ok now for point by point:

* easy to backup/restore/maintain (mw is easy enough, not sure about drupal)
cron backup scripts make this job the same for either solution.

* better security (well, in the first place, mw is not designed to be that
secure, since a wiki by nature is open)
just subscribe to the devel community's update mailing list and you're all
set. Is that what you mean?

* user creation maintenance is easy (is it possible to tweak users in the
db?)
if you mean tweaking user profiles yes anything is possible if youre going
the db route but normally you'd wanna go the UI route by default unless
you're doing something special. In other words, I wouldn't touch the db
unless I really really had to. Just my SOP.

* user tracking/good site statistics
can't imagine why either solution, which has been around for a while,
wouldn't do well in this category.

* wysiwig
ditto

* can you skin themes easily?
drupal theming is a BITCH. I'm philosophical about this though. IMO nothing
worth it is gonna be easy, so I put in time learning this and I've come out
with results. It's a matter of putting in the effort. Mediawiki however, is
far easier imo.

* how is plugin development going?
Am sure either one is doing well in this department.

* how is the community?  are there lots of good developers and people that
can be a helpdesk if you have problems installing/configuring things?
absolutely no problem with Drupal. Dunno about mediawiki but there's no
reason why it shouldn't since like I said it's been around a while.



To conclude, if you're gonna grow (and every successful website grows), go
with Drupal. But if you're fairly sure you're not gonna go beyond a Wiki,
then Mediawiki is a good deal.

Gary






On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 2:59 AM, Rommel Asibal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> guys, if you have the time check out the ff:
>
> http://www.empowerthyself.com/mediawikiisobsolete  (just got me
> interested)
>
> &
>
> http://waterandstone.com/downloads/2008OpenSourceCMSMarketSurvey.pdf
> (random facts)
>
> I've been trying to compare mediawiki with drupal (ive heard lots of
> greatness about drupal from friends) but havent really had the time to use
> drupal.  ive been helping maintain a company wiki but in hindsight it seems
> like management is looking for a CMS and not really a wiki.  which got me
> thinking of moving to another medium (lol the two articles in such a close
> proximity of time got me fired up enough to write this long email -- haha
> how did i even get to those two articles, anyway i digress...)
>
> things i am/was looking for:
> * easy to backup/restore/maintain (mw is easy enough, not sure about
> drupal)
> * better security (well, in the first place, mw is not designed to be that
> secure, since a wiki by nature is open)
> * user creation maintenance is easy (is it possible to tweak users in the
> db?)
> * user tracking/good site statistics
> * wysiwig
> * can you skin themes easily?
> * how is plugin development going?
> * how is the community?  are there lots of good developers and people that
> can be a helpdesk if you have problems installing/configuring things?
>
> has anyone had any similar experiences and what did you guys end up using?
>
> would the conversion time (from mw to drupal) be worth it if ever?
>
>
> actually, its all boils down to what would you guys think of the future of
> these two technologies, given their current state right now?
>
>
> cheers to burning the late night oil!
>
> rommel
> --
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