The reason the Comelec is still using the old fashion way tallying the votes
is because that is the law unless they amend the law which I think they
can't given the time frame they have, also you are right in saying that
manipulation are done from the municipal level and so on.
The cheating that is happening at this level would be eradicated if only the
Open Election System was adopted, too bad they didn't, but people behind the
idea are still keeping their fingers crossed and so am I.

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM, fooler mail <[email protected]> wrote:

> 2009/7/13 Pablo Manalastas <[email protected]>:
> >
> > I volunteered as IT consultant for CenPEG, the Center for People
> Empowerment in Governance.  This is a NGO, and it is engaged in a project to
> document and analyze the computerized 2010 elections.  CenPEG is not against
> computerization. It is in favor of computerization, provided that
> appropriate safeguards are put in place to minimize possibilities of
> cheating. The CenPEG project has a website:
> >
> > http://www.aes2010.net/
> >
> > This website is under development, so please expect new things to be
> added from time to time.
> >
> > CenPEG itself has a website: http://www.cenpeg.org/.
>
>
> doc.. i would like to help for the future of our country... i strongly
> suggest to discuss this over a chat server where everybody can listen
> and interact.. there are lots of clarifications to asks but doing this
> in a mailing list will take more time...
>
> there are lots of issues to tackle... these are few issues to start with...
>
> 1. we know that in manual election... cheating are done during
> transporting of ballots (switching) and manipulation of canvas at the
> higher level.. this can be done also in automated system where i can
> see they can switch code during the transport of machines to precincts
> and switch it back to a clean one upon surrending the machines to
> comelec...
>
> 2. private key must be protected by using passphrase... even if the
> private key was stolen by the cheaters.. they cannot create a new ER
> and sign those fake ERs as only the owner of the key knows how to
> unlock it...  but how the public/private key pair is going to create?
> during the election time or before? on or before election time have
> pros and cons and need to tackle this one also...
>
> 3. sending of data thru 3G networks - there are places in the
> philippines where there are no 3G signals in there.. only 2.5G signal
> and below such as GSM, GPRS (114kbps) or EDGE (236kbps) .. these are
> slow bandwidth... you can do the math how big is the data to be
> transmitted over these slow networks.. 1000 voters per machine times
> the average size of TIFF image plus the votes, logs and others..
>
> 4. why still following the old fashion way of counting where ERs bring
> to municipal/provincial/congressional canvassers where cheating and
> manupilation are done there? why not ERs directly bring to the main
> canvassers in NCR as computers quickly count this and the results are
> just a few seconds away... ERs send to comelec, namfrel, and to a
> pubic server where others can do unofficial counting for parallel
> counting...
>
> there are lot more and i know there are solutions for the above
> issues... if you can suggest a chatting time and the name of a server
> where to login so that pluggers and IT group from CenPEG can interact
> with each other to tackle these issues very well... if there is a web
> based chat client to use.. much better so that others on mobile can
> join also...
>
> fooler.
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