I don't trust programmers who hide their code. Although not all reviewers are honest, all it takes to expose anomalies in open source is one honest reviewer.
However in a close source system all it takes to corrupt the system is one corrupt programmer. Regards, Danny Ching On Oct 12, 2009, at 6:05 PM, Oscar Plameras <[email protected]> wrote: > You don't trust programmers? > > This precisely what's wrong with source code review. > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Danny Ching <[email protected]> > wrote: >> Very true. Unfortunately, I do not trust the programmers if I cannot >> check their work. The purpose of source code validation is not to >> check the computer or it's software's trustworthiness. A computer >> will >> do what it's told. It is human corruption I'm worried about. Of >> course >> outside of computers that is a different problem altogether. I just >> don't want people blaming computerization for failure of elections. >> >> Regards, >> Danny Ching >> >> >> On Oct 12, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Oscar Plameras <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> What you mean is the trustworthiness of the people running the >>> system. >>> >>> I'll say one thing from my experience, you can't use the system to >>> arrest >>> human corruption. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Danny Ching <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> I think I see where you are coming from. It is not the system we >>>> are >>>> worried about sir. It is the trustworthiness of the system. A >>>> simple >>>> exposure of the code will show that it is not doing anything out of >>>> the ordinary. Besides. If the code is indeed simple as you said, >>>> then >>>> checking the cource code should be easy. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Danny Ching >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 12, 2009, at 5:26 PM, Oscar Plameras <[email protected] >>>> > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> A tester does not need to know about programming to test and >>>>> accept >>>>> a System. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:47 PM, fooler mail <[email protected] >>>>> > >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Oscar Plameras <[email protected] >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Remember, Election Automation Software is one of the easiest to >>>>>>> develop. >>>>>>> It is "Count and Tally", nothing complicated and convoluted. >>>>>> >>>>>> true.. BUT... the purpose of source code review is to examine if >>>>>> there >>>>>> is something beyond the count and tally thing which cannot be >>>>>> seen by >>>>>> your simulation test.. as what danny said - TRIGGERS.. >>>>>> >>>>>> special keyboard hotkey, special packets, special ER and others >>>>>> to >>>>>> trigger the manipulation of votes to do the dagdag-bawas >>>>>> scheme... >>>>>> >>>>>> fooler. >>>>>> _________________________________________________ >>>>>> Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List >>>>>> http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug >>>>>> Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph >>>>>> >>>>> _________________________________________________ >>>>> Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List >>>>> http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug >>>>> Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph >>>> _________________________________________________ >>>> Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List >>>> http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug >>>> Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph >>>> >>> _________________________________________________ >>> Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List >>> http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug >>> Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph >> _________________________________________________ >> Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List >> http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug >> Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph >> > _________________________________________________ > Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph _________________________________________________ Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph
