there you again.. you are making wild statements.. show statistics and evidences to prove your all your claims...
fooler. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 6:46 AM, Rogelio M. Serrano Jr. <[email protected]> wrote: > > Solar power is being comoditized quickly right now. We have solar now. > Thorium is still a theoretical excercise but is cheaper in the long run and > it requires a lot of money to develop. But the economics is not there yet. > > Rare earth elements are not runniing out and efficiency has been improving. > Rare earths are rare but we need less and less of them. Until solar tech > matures nobody is willing to start investing in thorium. > > Current Gen nuclear is good enough for now. Renewable nuclear fuel is > abundant and some reactors can even burn off the deadliest fission products > such that spent nuclear fuel is not that dangerous anymore. > > Until oil really starts to run out nobody will be doing thorium in the next > few generations. > > And the Philippine public will not be talking about renewables until they > start choking with asthma in large numbers. Cars and smoking are the > deadliest weapons of mass destruction everybody likes to indulge in at the > moment, I don't think pollution and foreign oil independence is on top of > anyone's mind at all. > > Are you willing to jump with both feet into thorium nuclear power? You can > start with theoretical studies. You can start studying physics and > chemistry. You can buy books from Amazon. You can write a thesis and > publish it on the net. > > On Mar 26, 2015 1:13 AM, "fooler mail" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> my question is do you have the expertise to experiment if i give you >> where to find thorium? i will let nuclear scientist do the experiments >> and not you for your own safety.. sure they will attack with the cost >> as the same as they attack the cost of renewable energy before... it >> took more than a trillion dollars for the research of a cellphone and >> most of the users just use for selfie and post it in their facebook.. >> its just a couple of billion of dollars for the development of >> thorium... >> >> fooler. >> >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Kelsey Hartigan Go >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > You can buy solar panels in cdr-king. Where can you buy Thorium in the >> > Philippines if I want to experiment with it? >> > >> > By the way do they come with radiation protection? After you bombard it >> > with >> > neutrons to make it fuel ready, it will be difficult to handle. >> > >> > In any case I don't think we'll see Thorium as a renewable energy >> > anytime >> > soon. >> > >> > >> > http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a11907/is-the-superfuel-thorium-riskier-than-we-thought-14821644/ >> > -- >> > "When a technology is in some difficulty, and nuclear technology has >> > been >> > shocked by the Fukushima accident in Japan, people search for a magic >> > solution, but there is no silver bullet," he says. "The difference in >> > the >> > state of development of thorium versus other sources of fuel is so vast >> > and >> > the cost of developing the technology is so high, it's really >> > questionable >> > today whether it's worthwhile to spend a lot of money on the development >> > of >> > thorium." >> > >> > i was trying to suggest for you to look at thorium or clean nuclear >> > energy but your arrogance starts at this statement: >> > >> > "I'll look at thorium once I can buy it from a store (or Raon...)." >> > >> > fooler. >> > >> > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Roberto Verzola <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> Sorry, I sent this as private mail but it seems to have ended up on the >> >> list. My apologies to Mr. fooler. This was not meant to be for public >> >> consumption. Forgive an old man for his mistake. >> >> >> >> Obet >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 06:59:06 +0800 >> >> Roberto Verzola <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Thanks for your comment. It is hard to feel welcome to plug if fools >> >>> who are only after winning debates and nothing else are allowed to get >> >>> away browbeating others with insults and false expertise. >> >>> >> >>> It was my mistake, I took the bait. I should have known better. >> >>> >> >>> I've ran lists and boards decades ago, and I still do today. I won't >> >>> allow such rude behavior on lists I really care about, even if I'm >> >>> not the moderator. >> >>> >> >>> But of course each list has its own culture and practices. If plug >> >>> prefers it that way, that's also fine. >> >>> >> >>> Greetings, >> >>> >> >>> Obet >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 04:45:52 +0800 >> >>> Gabriel Briones <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> > Hi Roberto, >> >>> > >> >>> > Welcome to PLUG :-) >> >>> > >> >>> > debate is always part of the community and I don't think it will >> >>> > change. I've been to this list long enough to witness these :-) >> >>> > >> >>> > And I alway admire people like you who initiates an action to cool >> >>> > down the topic. >> >>> > >> >>> > No idea is a bad idea, some ideas are just better, but just like >> >>> > what we're always saying, if what you're doing makes you happy, the >> >>> > rest is irrelevant. >> >>> > >> >>> > Best regards, >> >>> > Gabriel >> >>> > On 24 Mar 2015 19:27, "Roberto Verzola" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> > > I apologize to all for trigerring an off-topic debate. All I >> >>> > > wanted was to reach old friends I knew were still on this list. >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Guys, just email me privately. 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