You think solar is a big swindling conspiracy? Are you predisposed to that line of thinking?
Only India has running thorium reactors. And a few countries uk among them have active thorium research. And the uk just announced a few days ago that solar power in the uk can survive on its own without further help from government. In the Phil solar is something the public has access to. Its a distributed infrastructure like Linux. Unlike nuclear which is a highly centralized infrastructure that requires centralized resources. Thorium will not happen in the Phil in your lifetime. Are you going to dedicate the rest of your life to thorium now? Its not too late. You can take courses. You are in the u.s. right? There might be a thorium research facility near you. Solar, like linux, is here, now. On Mar 26, 2015 11:04 AM, "fooler mail" <[email protected]> wrote: > > there you again.. you are making wild statements.. show statistics and > evidences to prove your all your claims... > > fooler. > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 6:46 AM, Rogelio M. Serrano Jr. > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Solar power is being comoditized quickly right now. We have solar now. > > Thorium is still a theoretical excercise but is cheaper in the long run and > > it requires a lot of money to develop. But the economics is not there yet. > > > > Rare earth elements are not runniing out and efficiency has been improving. > > Rare earths are rare but we need less and less of them. Until solar tech > > matures nobody is willing to start investing in thorium. > > > > Current Gen nuclear is good enough for now. Renewable nuclear fuel is > > abundant and some reactors can even burn off the deadliest fission products > > such that spent nuclear fuel is not that dangerous anymore. > > > > Until oil really starts to run out nobody will be doing thorium in the next > > few generations. > > > > And the Philippine public will not be talking about renewables until they > > start choking with asthma in large numbers. Cars and smoking are the > > deadliest weapons of mass destruction everybody likes to indulge in at the > > moment, I don't think pollution and foreign oil independence is on top of > > anyone's mind at all. > > > > Are you willing to jump with both feet into thorium nuclear power? You can > > start with theoretical studies. You can start studying physics and > > chemistry. You can buy books from Amazon. You can write a thesis and > > publish it on the net. > > > > On Mar 26, 2015 1:13 AM, "fooler mail" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > >> my question is do you have the expertise to experiment if i give you > >> where to find thorium? i will let nuclear scientist do the experiments > >> and not you for your own safety.. sure they will attack with the cost > >> as the same as they attack the cost of renewable energy before... it > >> took more than a trillion dollars for the research of a cellphone and > >> most of the users just use for selfie and post it in their facebook.. > >> its just a couple of billion of dollars for the development of > >> thorium... > >> > >> fooler. > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Kelsey Hartigan Go > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > You can buy solar panels in cdr-king. Where can you buy Thorium in the > >> > Philippines if I want to experiment with it? > >> > > >> > By the way do they come with radiation protection? After you bombard it > >> > with > >> > neutrons to make it fuel ready, it will be difficult to handle. > >> > > >> > In any case I don't think we'll see Thorium as a renewable energy > >> > anytime > >> > soon. > >> > > >> > > >> > http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a11907/is-the-superfuel-thorium-riskier-than-we-thought-14821644/ > >> > -- > >> > "When a technology is in some difficulty, and nuclear technology has > >> > been > >> > shocked by the Fukushima accident in Japan, people search for a magic > >> > solution, but there is no silver bullet," he says. "The difference in > >> > the > >> > state of development of thorium versus other sources of fuel is so vast > >> > and > >> > the cost of developing the technology is so high, it's really > >> > questionable > >> > today whether it's worthwhile to spend a lot of money on the development > >> > of > >> > thorium." > >> > > >> > i was trying to suggest for you to look at thorium or clean nuclear > >> > energy but your arrogance starts at this statement: > >> > > >> > "I'll look at thorium once I can buy it from a store (or Raon...)." > >> > > >> > fooler. > >> > > >> > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Roberto Verzola <[email protected] > > >> > wrote: > >> >> Sorry, I sent this as private mail but it seems to have ended up on the > >> >> list. My apologies to Mr. fooler. This was not meant to be for public > >> >> consumption. Forgive an old man for his mistake. > >> >> > >> >> Obet > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 06:59:06 +0800 > >> >> Roberto Verzola <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> Thanks for your comment. It is hard to feel welcome to plug if fools > >> >>> who are only after winning debates and nothing else are allowed to get > >> >>> away browbeating others with insults and false expertise. > >> >>> > >> >>> It was my mistake, I took the bait. I should have known better. > >> >>> > >> >>> I've ran lists and boards decades ago, and I still do today. I won't > >> >>> allow such rude behavior on lists I really care about, even if I'm > >> >>> not the moderator. > >> >>> > >> >>> But of course each list has its own culture and practices. If plug > >> >>> prefers it that way, that's also fine. > >> >>> > >> >>> Greetings, > >> >>> > >> >>> Obet > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 04:45:52 +0800 > >> >>> Gabriel Briones <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> > Hi Roberto, > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Welcome to PLUG :-) > >> >>> > > >> >>> > debate is always part of the community and I don't think it will > >> >>> > change. I've been to this list long enough to witness these :-) > >> >>> > > >> >>> > And I alway admire people like you who initiates an action to cool > >> >>> > down the topic. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > No idea is a bad idea, some ideas are just better, but just like > >> >>> > what we're always saying, if what you're doing makes you happy, the > >> >>> > rest is irrelevant. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Best regards, > >> >>> > Gabriel > >> >>> > On 24 Mar 2015 19:27, "Roberto Verzola" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > I apologize to all for trigerring an off-topic debate. All I > >> >>> > > wanted was to reach old friends I knew were still on this list. > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > Guys, just email me privately. 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