hi niels, because of our corrupt politicians there in the philippines and keep on selling basic services to private companies (privatization)... letting private companies managed basic services will definitely rise the cost of it for the reason that the main goal of private companies having a business is to increase profit...
this is one of the reasons why investors and other big companies are moving away from the philippines and move their business to other cheap neighboring asian countries... fooler. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:21 AM, Niels Tomey <[email protected]> wrote: > yum -y remove coal-powered* && yum -y install thorium-reactor > > seems like a good start. Honestly I don't think it's a bad thing the > Philippines doesn't have nuclear power. Breaking down Meralco's monopoly > would be a better way to improve the power situation in this country, > because I don't see a reason why electricity should be more expensive here > than in my own country (Netherlands / Europe). > > > > Kind regards, > > Niels Tomey > Manager Technical Operations Department > iXSforall > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Rod James Bio <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi fooler, >> >> Do you have a suggestion on how we as a linux community, or better yet as >> people with no expertise when it comes to nuclear physics, can contribute? >> >> >> On 3/26/15 12:00, fooler mail wrote: >>> >>> hi dan, >>> >>> this is the reason why i said in my other post that focusing on >>> renewable energy is a complete waste of time because it is not >>> sustainable... instead people must focus and accelerate on clean >>> nuclear energy... >>> >>> with clean nuclear energy.. it translates to abundant energy (or >>> electricity)... this translates further to... >>> >>> 1) with abundant energy.. it creates more food >>> 2) with abundant energy.. it creates more water >>> 3) with abundant energy.. it creates more advance in technology... >>> >>> fooler. >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 10:39 PM, Danny Ching <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I think the disparity in the debate is about timelines. From where I'm >>>> sitting, both sides are correct. >>>> >>>> Thorium obviously will become the de facto energy source in the future. >>>> But >>>> for now, while we wait for the tech to become commercially available, >>>> solar >>>> might be the best stop gap solution. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:04 AM Kelsey Hartigan Go >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> Obet and I don't have a couple of billion dollars. So like Obet, I >>>>> will >>>>> wait until Thorium development kit is available in stores. >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 26, 2015 9:13 AM, "fooler mail" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> my question is do you have the expertise to experiment if i give you >>>>>> where to find thorium? i will let nuclear scientist do the experiments >>>>>> and not you for your own safety.. sure they will attack with the cost >>>>>> as the same as they attack the cost of renewable energy before... it >>>>>> took more than a trillion dollars for the research of a cellphone and >>>>>> most of the users just use for selfie and post it in their facebook.. >>>>>> its just a couple of billion of dollars for the development of >>>>>> thorium... >>>>>> >>>>>> fooler. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Kelsey Hartigan Go >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can buy solar panels in cdr-king. Where can you buy Thorium in >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> Philippines if I want to experiment with it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> By the way do they come with radiation protection? After you bombard >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> neutrons to make it fuel ready, it will be difficult to handle. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In any case I don't think we'll see Thorium as a renewable energy >>>>>>> anytime >>>>>>> soon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a11907/is-the-superfuel-thorium-riskier-than-we-thought-14821644/ >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> "When a technology is in some difficulty, and nuclear technology has >>>>>>> been >>>>>>> shocked by the Fukushima accident in Japan, people search for a magic >>>>>>> solution, but there is no silver bullet," he says. "The difference in >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> state of development of thorium versus other sources of fuel is so >>>>>>> vast >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> the cost of developing the technology is so high, it's really >>>>>>> questionable >>>>>>> today whether it's worthwhile to spend a lot of money on the >>>>>>> development of >>>>>>> thorium." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i was trying to suggest for you to look at thorium or clean nuclear >>>>>>> energy but your arrogance starts at this statement: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "I'll look at thorium once I can buy it from a store (or Raon...)." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> fooler. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Roberto Verzola >>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry, I sent this as private mail but it seems to have ended up on >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> list. My apologies to Mr. fooler. This was not meant to be for >>>>>>>> public >>>>>>>> consumption. Forgive an old man for his mistake. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Obet >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 06:59:06 +0800 >>>>>>>> Roberto Verzola <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for your comment. It is hard to feel welcome to plug if >>>>>>>>> fools >>>>>>>>> who are only after winning debates and nothing else are allowed to >>>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>>> away browbeating others with insults and false expertise. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It was my mistake, I took the bait. I should have known better. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've ran lists and boards decades ago, and I still do today. I >>>>>>>>> won't >>>>>>>>> allow such rude behavior on lists I really care about, even if I'm >>>>>>>>> not the moderator. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But of course each list has its own culture and practices. If plug >>>>>>>>> prefers it that way, that's also fine. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Greetings, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Obet >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 04:45:52 +0800 >>>>>>>>> Gabriel Briones <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Roberto, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Welcome to PLUG :-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> debate is always part of the community and I don't think it will >>>>>>>>>> change. I've been to this list long enough to witness these :-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And I alway admire people like you who initiates an action to cool >>>>>>>>>> down the topic. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No idea is a bad idea, some ideas are just better, but just like >>>>>>>>>> what we're always saying, if what you're doing makes you happy, >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> rest is irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>> Gabriel >>>>>>>>>> On 24 Mar 2015 19:27, "Roberto Verzola" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I apologize to all for trigerring an off-topic debate. All I >>>>>>>>>>> wanted was to reach old friends I knew were still on this list. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Guys, just email me privately. 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