There's also the danger that "insert provider here" decides you have violated their terms of use and permanently block you from your own content.
On Fri, Aug 9, 2024 at 9:17 AM Ben Koenig <[email protected]> wrote: > Obligatory XKCD 743: > https://xkcd.com/743 > > A lot of people use "privacy" as a shorthand way to reference the larger > issue of trust when it comes to companies like Google. > > Yes, GW does provide a lot of features that may fall perfectly in line > with what users want. But there is more to infrastructure than just "does > it have feature X?" > > Google in general has shown that it is not reliable from an infrastructure > standpoint. They have a tendency to kill projects, and those projects that > are not killed will someday change and end users often have no say in the > matter. The fact that GW provides the requested features today is moot, > because tomorrow those features could be removed or changed rendering your > conclusion incorrect. > > Rational people generally avoid Google because they trusted them in the > past, got burned and learned from the experience. IIRC there was a > discussion very similar to this on G+.... let me get you a link... ;) > > -Ben > > > On Thursday, August 8th, 2024 at 8:49 AM, mo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Not really. > > > > Privacy? Considering the insane amount everyone puts on social media, > what > > privacy is there? Plus anything other self hosted = someone has your > data. > > > > Market diversity? Idk what that one means precisely. > > > > GW not Gmail. So not free. > > > > 144% for 1000% more services than mere email host. > > > > So nope, don't understand even slightly why rational ppl would not choose > > GW in this scenario. But I appreciate the effort regardless. > > > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2024, 07:29 Tomas Kuchta [email protected] > > > > wrote: > > > > > Privacy, market diversity, not having all eggs in one basket, gmail is > free > > > anyway, .... and 12*6=72 that happens to be 144% of 50 > > > > > > I hope that gives you some idea what others may or may not think about > when > > > chosing a service provider. > > > > > > Tomas > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2024, 11:36 mo [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > If $50/yr, why not just use Google Workspace? $6/mo for all their > > > > services. > > > > I'm asking bc I want the cons of using GW. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2024, 01:18 Tomas Kuchta [email protected] > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > ++ for fastmail email hosting. > > > > > > > > > > Works great with(out) own domain for $50 per year. > > > > > > > > > > The only feature I am missing - their calendar foes not export > birthday > > > > > calendar over IMAP. > > > > > > > > > > -T > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 6, 2024, 16:13 Courtney Rosenthal [email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, been there, done that. > > > > > > > > > > > > When I quit email self-hosting I went to fastmail.com. It works > out > > > > > > to > > > > > > $50 per mailbox per year. I have a bunch of domains there. I > setup > > > > > > aliases in those domains that forward into one of two mailboxes. > So > > > > > > it's > > > > > > costing me about $100/yr for that and I'm super satisfied. > > > > > > > > > > > > They won't do DNS though. I'm using cloudns.net and I'm very > > > > > > satisfied > > > > > > with them. I've had to use their support a few times (for their > > > > > > monitoring service) and they've been super responsive -- > including > > > > > > implementing a feature request I made. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/6/24 14:34, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm winding down my self-hosted web space. Part of this is > finding > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > place to host jamhome.us - or more accurately the email > portion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you recommend a place that would do that? They can host the > > > > > > > domain > > > > > > > name too. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Courtney Rosenthal / [email protected] / www.crosenthal.com >
