** Sabi ni Dido noong Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:10:12 +0800

> I think the biggest problem with Linux desktop environments is that they
> must so SLAVISHLY copy the Windows desktop environment.  Both KDE and
> Gnome are guilty of this (and arguably KDE more so), and arguably much

I concur, and IMHO, this has contributed to the bloat of the distros. I'll
reiterate my position that it's not X11R6 that's bloated, it's the window
managers.

> of it was done to ease the migration of refugees from the Evil Empire to
> the Free World, but in my opinion both of these parallel projects are
> going much too far in this regard.

I can understand their position, but OTOH, I believe there are enough new users
to whom it won't matter. IOW, there are users that you can give something that
looks like Be, and they'll take to it anywayz.

> I've just been giving GNUstep a little swing, and am reading through
> Objective-C and seeing what we can do.  It's much much more mature than
> it once was when I started using Linux and looking for ways to develop X
> applications.  At least GNUstep is beginning to look more and more ripe,
> and seems to have the potential to produce in the future a desktop that
> may be much better than anything Redmond ever made.

Something like OS/2's WorkPlace Shell. Seriously though, that's one reason I
took to AfterSTEP and WindowMaker, particularly the former -- they worked
closely enough to WPS, w/c is one OS/2 component I wish IBM would open-source.
Might be one of those things though that are subject to some 3rd party patent or
license and w/c IBM just can't release. In the meantime, AfterStep does nicely.

Mabuhay.

8. When the chips are down, the buffalo is empty.
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