Note: copy/paste on my comments few months ago
so that there would be no misunderstanding
on my position.
"I'm not, repeat, a sendmail advocate/zealot.
My views are that postfix/qmail/sendmail/exim
mta's are good. They have their strengths and
weaknesses. Hell, if you ask me, I'll go for
exim rather than sendmail for low/medium loads.
sendmail for company/enterprise mail server."
I just want to clarify some FUD about sendmail.
> What is this? It's a commercial product of
> the authors of sendmail which includes
> support a support infrastructure, scripts and
> programs to make up for sendmail's native
> inefficiency.
A fairly open minded guy reading the sendmail.com
site for 10 minutes would come to the conclusion
that the commercial sendmail is not just there
"to make up for (open source) sendmail's native
inefficiency."
Besides, how can you compare the commercial
sendmail with the open source sendmail when the
commercial one is based on the open source
brother?
Think carefully what you are saying on the
above statement. It's as if your spreading
FUD! oops, I said it na, sorry... :)
> As i have said before, in the internet you
> can find virtually countless sites to backup
> whatever you claim, so i choose not to delve
> into what will be an endless quoting of site
> choosing sendmail or qmail, URLs websites and
> internet studies. You can claim earthlink
> and i will claim yahoo; it's pretty much
> pointless.
I don't claim, anything. Documented case studies
I have mentioned like earthlink is in the
internet. everyone and their dog claims yahoo or
hotmail uses qmail. where is the proof? a guy
from a mailing list? have searched on google and
I only came up with this:
http://inter7.com/qmail/qmailsites.html
Which is not convincing really. No links or inter
view, nothing. It would be a great service if
there is documented proof about this. Otherwise,
That would be lying.
Your e-mail below is a lot like our e-mail
exchange few months ago, just condensed. :)
Instead of copy/paste, i'll just link it to
jijo's lurker:
http://marc.free.net.ph/message/1497.64.229.69.122
.1002256304.squirrel%40secure.mozcom.com.xml
http://marc.free.net.ph/message/3320.199.166.230.9
2.1002149045.squirrel%40secure.mozcom.com.xml
http://marc.free.net.ph/message/1930.199.166.230.9
2.1002063153.squirrel%40secure.mozcom.com.xml
http://marc.free.net.ph/message/3310.199.166.230.9
2.1001973665.squirrel%40secure.mozcom.com.xml
> As a developer of more than 10 years, i did
> choose to make my own
> evaluation of the SOURCE code and design of
> both sendmail, qmail and postfix. What
> recommendations i make in this public list
> are from the reviews i have done, and the
> conclusions i have made not only basing on
> these studies but also in actual deployments
> wherein i had to replace sendmail with both
> qmail and postfix (yes i have experience in
> all three).
>
> If you want to go on and quote websites and
> claim that each says the truth, that is your
> choice, it's a free internet. Mine is just
> to offer what experiences i have had, and
> conclusions i have made. Sendmail is old
> antiquated technology that should be retired.
> I said that and will keep on repeating it,
> because my own review and personal experience
> has to proven it to be true.
>
> You are free to pitch technical information
> to refute these issues, specifically, isn't
> sendmail a monolith (one/two programs does
> everthing) ? isn't sendmail an MTA with the
> most number of reported exploits?
>
> You're right, it's not funny that we're
> having this argument all over again. I post
> this information not to irritate you, but to
> guide other people in their objective of
> finding the best technology.
>
> If you have problems with the technical
> issues i have against sendmail, then address
> the issues on a technical level, do not just
> give examples of other people choosing
> sendmail over others and claim on the basis
> of that, that my technical arguments are
> false.
>
> It would also help others decide if you
> posted technical arguments that make sendmail
> superior to other MTAs, other than the fact
> that it is the default mailer used in
> many-a-Li/Unix distribution, and is used be
> some well known sites.
>
> Personal experience is also valuable;
> specifically, your experiences when you
> actually migrated a site from postfix/qmail
> into sendmail, and you saw severalfold
> increase in performance, and less resource
> consumption.
regards,
---
Andre
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