just in case you're wondering, yes I am from the University of the Philippines at Los Banos. :)
chill... ;) On Sat, 2003-02-22 at 22:38, Dean Michael Berris wrote: > On Sun, 2003-02-23 at 13:41, Enrique A Suarez wrote: > > Hello: > > > > I merely forwarded this post. > > As the entry level remarks by the author indicate, not too many still know about > > Linux. > > What it implies is that Linux evangelists must work harder > > i refuse to believe that evangelists SHOULD work harder. i refuse to be > called an evangelist neither because what evangelists do is make others > believe in something. i would prefer to be called an advocate however, > because i would push for the use of linux in situations that would be > necessary. and as of now, it seems to me that linux has proven itself to > me to the point that i would recommend it to anybody. > > the burden of proof is on the advocate. of course it always it, whether > or not you are for or against anything. an advocate would carry with > him/her the conviction that he/she would bring the news/information to > the most people he/she could possibly reach. > > > to reach the ordinary users of PCs. In other words, non-techies. > > when you automatically use a PC, you should in some way become a > 'techie' in one way or another, because that's the best way to grasp > technology. like to learn how to use your car better, you must learn to > drive, and eventually understand how it works to some extent. the same > should be true for anything for that matter. > > > And BTW: Microsoft is now investing heavily in cultivating college students. > > i do not get this. you actually 'cultivate' college students? > > > At the same time, student radicals in UP appear to be the shrillest voices opposed > > to the university president's decision to migrate completly to Linux, > > which UP unit are you talking about? in UPLB, there seems to be a > geniune interest in Linux, especially in the institute of computer > science. you'd tell me sure, we are computer science students -- true, > but if it is being recognized by people in the position to understand > the technology, what would that say? would you trust a poilitician who > knew nothing of rocket science who would you tell you that it would be > impossible and impractical to put a space station up in space? or would > you rather listen to a rocket scientist who knew what he was talking > about? > > well you did mention radicals. but still they only become radicals > because they are either misinformed or inherently shrewed. of course you > would have to be relative in defining radicals, because you need a point > of reference. and IMHO, UP students are so diverse you can't really > define what a radical person is. > > > excepting applications which have no non-propietary equivalents. > > please name some to comfort my grief. and please don't give me games, > because are games really necessary in the budget of government offices? > and in the academe perhaps, of all places? > > > And never forget: where UP goes socially and politically, so does the rest of the > > nation eventually. > > this is a rash generalization. i believe this comment is meant to be > humorous, but it fails to stimulate my humour faculty (pertaining to my > mental faculties). > > > A successful Linux implementation there could very well signal the fact that this > > tropical archipelago could yet be the computing islands of the Penguin in the near > > future. > > > > you sound pessimistic, and at some part of it sarcastic. IMHO this is > the last thing a linux advocate should say. but i'm taking it that you > are not an advocate. and it's like saying that if it can't be done in > UP, then it can't be done in any other part of the Philippines. > > as we always hear from everybody else and also from ourselves, change > starts from yourself. if you rely on other people to change first, then > let's assume that everybody else thinks the same -- would change occur > given that situation? i believe that we should be able to take linux > everywhere, and we ourselves should be true to ourselves whether or not > we want to take it to wherever we may go. > > I love the University of the Philippines, and I have high regards for > the institution that it is. but linux in UP should not "very well signal > the fact that" ... (paraphrasing) penguins could compute here in the > Philippines. > > of course, the last statement was deliberately mangled to reflect that > UP is not the only pioneer, nor should it be the only one to show that > the Philippines would very well be the nest of penguins. > > -- > -=[mikhail]=- > > aka Dean Michael C. Berris > mobile +63 917 8901959 > work +63 49 5680024 > http://free.net.ph/Members/mikhailberis > > _ > Philippine Linux Users Group. Web site and archives at http://plug.linux.org.ph > To leave: send "unsubscribe" in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fully Searchable Archives With Friendly Web Interface at http://marc.free.net.ph > > To subscribe to the Linux Newbies' List: send "subscribe" in the body to [EMAIL > PROTECTED] -- -=[mikhail]=- aka Dean Michael C. Berris mobile +63 917 8901959 work +63 49 5680024 http://free.net.ph/Members/mikhailberis _ Philippine Linux Users Group. 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