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On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 15:57, Rick Moen wrote:
> Because even when all you want is a word processor, you still load a
> bare minimum 73 MB. But you insist on a comparison initial RAM
> consumption by "suites"? OK:
>
> OpenOffice.org suite: 73 MB.
> KOffice suite: 17 MB.
> GNOME Office Suite, 6 MB.
That's the proper comparison, now you're learning! ;-) Am I being obtuse
then?
>
> >> Kind of like Java. ;->
> >
> > You're dang wrong! Java only loads the virtual machine and the other
> > stuff you instantiated in your java app.
>
> anything. Consider, for example, Java MUAs: You load program bytecode
> into your Java VM. But wait, there's more! Throw in the Javamail class
> library, JavaBeans Activation Framework, Java XML classes, and probably
> a bunch more -- all probably proprietary code, by the way. Which seems
> to be where all that RAM goes.
>
> Check for yourself: Try out Grendel, ICEMail, JMail, ENIP, spaces.
> Those are all Java-based MUAs that you can run on Linux, and all end up
> being huge and ponderous upon being actually executed.
>
> But, hey, at least GNUS users might not think they're too slow and
> bloated -- if you can convince them to switch to proprietary mailers.
>
Again, it's in the stuff you instantiated in the first place. Have I
missed that point? And I am not in the business of convincing anyone
into anything. If that is how Grendel, ICEMail or whatever was bloatedly
programmed to be. It's obvious it's not Java's problem. 'Di Ba?
<--you're in PLUG by the way hehehe.
> --
> Cheers, Ceterum censeo, Caldera delenda est.
> Rick Moen
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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