I agree about the superb features of knoppix but this also have its
flaws. You can't upgrade the contents of the CD (as well as the emulated
CD in you hard drive) unless you build another ISO file containing your
updates. Users will not be able to install software that they want. It
will be hard to distribute this kind of distribution to people with
different software requirements.  Second, if we go for a debian-based
distro (not the knoppix type) installation is not that user friendly
compared  to redhat unless we would like to create another installer.
But still, this is a good idea.

Just my two cents worth.

./billy

On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 16:53, Federico Sevilla III wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:24:29AM -0500, Michael Chaney wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 05:41:54PM +0800, Chivas G. Sicam wrote:
> > > 1.  Auto-detection and auto-configuration of hardware
> > > peripherals(lancard, modem, soundcard, graphics card, monitor,
> > > mouse, keyboard, etc.)
> > 
> > Take a look at Knoppix, they have this down fairly well.
> 
> I agree. Knoppix is one of the most advanced run-from-CD GNU/Linux
> distributions we have today, and the fact it can be used to install
> itself in a user's hard drive as well makes it even more versatile.
> 
> > Is it too late to start over based on Debian?  RedHat is nice, but
> > given the direction that they're going with support (they're trying to
> > make money; I don't blame them) it seems like the fully free solution
> > would be better.  Deb's package management just seems easier.
> 
> I'd like to second Michael's suggestion.
> 
> Many people are probably only aware of Debian's stable releases, which
> haven't been as regular as those of other distributions (although we all
> know they're rock solid, so "stable" they really are). Debian also has
> three other official trees: testing, unstable, and experimental.
> Debian's testing tree is meant to be a staging area for the next stable
> release. The unstable tree contains most new software versions uploaded,
> and although the name may scare a lot of people off, it's often more
> usable than it sounds. The experimental tree is for radical changes that
> still need work, or for CVS snapshots and experimental software
> versions.
> 
> I propose that Bayanihan GNU/Linux be reimplemented as a Knoppix fork
> (note that Knoppix is based on Debian's testing and unstable trees)
> aimed at its current target audience, which I believe are typical Pinoy
> desktop computers. By forking Knoppix and building on Debian's unstable
> tree, the smaller group of local Bayanihan developers can build on the
> much larger Debian volunteer group, and focus on integration of a subset
> of the packages in unstable, testing, localization, and bells and
> whistles to make the meta-distribution more appealing.
> 
> Because Knoppix is still actively maintained and is free software,
> Bayanihan as a Knoppix fork doesn't necessarily have to begin
> reimplementing everything Knoppix has gotten right. Auto-detection, hard
> drive installation scripts and the like can continue to be merged into
> Bayanihan from the main Knoppix development.
> 
> I know this needs a lot of work at the start, but I think it will be
> easier to keep alive and relevant in the long run.
> 
> > Anyway, good to see this project making progress. Is there an
> > organization in charge of development?
> 
> The Advanced Science and Technology Institute (ASTI) of the Department
> of Science and Technology (DOST) continues to handle core development of
> Bayanihan. The Philippine Free Network Group (free.net.ph) provides a
> mailing list[1] and IRC channel[2] for collaboration between the core
> development team and the growing group of extra-ASTI volunteer
> developers.
> 
>  --> Jijo
> 
> [1] http://lists.free.net.ph/mailman/listinfo/bayanihan
> [2] #Bayanihan at irc.free.net.ph

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