On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:24:29AM -0500, Michael Chaney wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 05:41:54PM +0800, Chivas G. Sicam wrote:
> > 1.  Auto-detection and auto-configuration of hardware
> > peripherals(lancard, modem, soundcard, graphics card, monitor,
> > mouse, keyboard, etc.)
> 
> Take a look at Knoppix, they have this down fairly well.

I agree. Knoppix is one of the most advanced run-from-CD GNU/Linux
distributions we have today, and the fact it can be used to install
itself in a user's hard drive as well makes it even more versatile.

> Is it too late to start over based on Debian?  RedHat is nice, but
> given the direction that they're going with support (they're trying to
> make money; I don't blame them) it seems like the fully free solution
> would be better.  Deb's package management just seems easier.

I'd like to second Michael's suggestion.

Many people are probably only aware of Debian's stable releases, which
haven't been as regular as those of other distributions (although we all
know they're rock solid, so "stable" they really are). Debian also has
three other official trees: testing, unstable, and experimental.
Debian's testing tree is meant to be a staging area for the next stable
release. The unstable tree contains most new software versions uploaded,
and although the name may scare a lot of people off, it's often more
usable than it sounds. The experimental tree is for radical changes that
still need work, or for CVS snapshots and experimental software
versions.

I propose that Bayanihan GNU/Linux be reimplemented as a Knoppix fork
(note that Knoppix is based on Debian's testing and unstable trees)
aimed at its current target audience, which I believe are typical Pinoy
desktop computers. By forking Knoppix and building on Debian's unstable
tree, the smaller group of local Bayanihan developers can build on the
much larger Debian volunteer group, and focus on integration of a subset
of the packages in unstable, testing, localization, and bells and
whistles to make the meta-distribution more appealing.

Because Knoppix is still actively maintained and is free software,
Bayanihan as a Knoppix fork doesn't necessarily have to begin
reimplementing everything Knoppix has gotten right. Auto-detection, hard
drive installation scripts and the like can continue to be merged into
Bayanihan from the main Knoppix development.

I know this needs a lot of work at the start, but I think it will be
easier to keep alive and relevant in the long run.

> Anyway, good to see this project making progress. Is there an
> organization in charge of development?

The Advanced Science and Technology Institute (ASTI) of the Department
of Science and Technology (DOST) continues to handle core development of
Bayanihan. The Philippine Free Network Group (free.net.ph) provides a
mailing list[1] and IRC channel[2] for collaboration between the core
development team and the growing group of extra-ASTI volunteer
developers.

 --> Jijo

[1] http://lists.free.net.ph/mailman/listinfo/bayanihan
[2] #Bayanihan at irc.free.net.ph

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