Sammy,

Point well taken. :D 

I do support whoever sits on the Board and I have full confidence in
these people -- at least those people I know personally and those I
frequently 'see' on the list. Di ko na kilala yung iba, eh. Haven't
heard of them.

Anyway, I am sure that they will be doing a great job - heck, I am
part of one of their projects, right Marvin? :)

Sana lang di mawala yung recognition of those who started it all. :D

Cheers!

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:59:11 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rommel,
> 
> Since the legal stuff have been defined, I guess all of us should abide
> by the laws unless the board accommodates your proposal.  We don't want
> to do things that MIGHT set a precedent that we'll later regret.  At
> this point, all we can do is suggest/propose.  We're dealing with a
> legal entity now.  Things were different 10 years ago...or is that 11?
> 
> We should also give the board (current and previous ones) and all linux
> supporters credit (and best wishes) for moving plug to newer heights.
> We have a long way to go.
> 
> Let's not start a revolution.  We have enough of that in the
> senate/congress.  :(
> Let's just follow what the board decides for now.  Personally, I don't
> care who sits on the board or who comprises the advisory board (if there
> is).  What's important to me is that people/companies benefit from
> linux.  Our economy is in deep s**t.  Board members will change.  PLUG
> Members will change.
> 
> ====================
> 
> Xenos, are you still listed here?  <ping!>
> 
> ===================================
> 
> On another matter, I'm surprised to know that there are a number of
> local distros available.  Why not build one philippine distro?  Could
> bayanihan linux be that "one"?  I hope we can get our acts together.
> After all, we all want linux to be well used.  Or maybe choose an
> existing distro (mandrake, RH, whatever), and build customizations, more
> tools, et al.  Maybe this is something that the board and the local
> linux community can think about...and act on.  I hope the board can
> spearhead this.
> 
> ====================================
> 
> Paolo, Marvin,
> thanks for posting those details.  It's a good update for everyone.
> It's good to see questions popping up about membership and stuff.  We'll
> all wait for the procedures and forms.
> 
> So, is there an advisory board?  If not, the board might want to assess
> if there's a need for it...and define the term, objectives/expectations,
> et al.
> 
> Now that we're discussing all these, maybe you can inform us as to who
> the board members are, what are the plans for the coming year, how many
> members there are, how many we are in this mailing list...  I guess this
> is a way to promote the membership.
> 
> Sammy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rommel Feria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:08 PM
> To: Paolo Alexis Falcone; Philippine Linux Users Group Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [plug] Proceedings of the PLUG General Assembly, 18
> December 2004
> 
> There mere fact that we founded the organization must account to
> something - even if we decide, later on, to be non-active members.
> Please give due respect to those who started it all.
> 
> I mean, Kelsey is busy with his SM conglomerate (hehehe), Doc Mana is
> busy training students, Eric is busy maintaining UPM's IT infrastructure
> the same way that Sammy and I are doing our jobs. Do
> *NOT* penalize us for being busy -- besides, we do monitor the list
> still!
> 
> The Constitution must also allow the Board to recommend other people to
> be awarded with lifetime memberships - such as Migs Paras, who did a
> very good job whilst he was president. However, these nominations must
> be approved by the GA.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:42:03 +0800, Paolo Alexis Falcone
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:45:45 +0800, Rommel Feria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > Lifetime membership only applies to individuals. I do not think that
> 
> > > it is appropriate to have institutions as lifetime members. I mean,
> > > 10 years down the road, UP may dump Linux (heaven forbid!) in favor
> > > of Microsoft (will $50Million grant do it?) and it will render its
> > > lifetime membership void. hehehe... don't worry, as long as I'm with
> 
> > > UP, Linux will live there! :D
> >
> > While I do like the idea of lifetime memberships, wouldn't it be
> > unsafe to wager that individuals' beliefs wouldn't waver as time
> > passes? 10 years down the road, some of us might even be dumping Linux
> 
> > in favor of some other non-free operating system out there.
> >
> > --
> > Paolo Alexis Falcone
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>
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