It has come to my attention that MSN/Hotmail/Windows Dead is being evil.

I send a message which is delivered via plug.org (e.g. a post to this
list). This is what shows up in the logs:

Mar 10 08:50:57 localhost postfix/smtp[32738]: 1B84CE3A5A: to=<[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>, relay=mx1.hotmail.com[65.54.244.136], delay=0, status=sent (250  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Queued mail for delivery)

But, it never reaches its destination. Yes, we checked the junk mail
folder. The astute reader will notice that the above is a relay
situation, but I also tested it with telnet directly from plug.org:

$ telnet mx1.hotmail.com smtp
Trying 65.54.244.8...
Connected to mail.hotmail.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 bay0-mc1-f13.bay0.hotmail.com Sending unsolicited commercial or bulk e-mail 
to Microsoft's computer network is prohibited. Other restrictions are found at 
http://privacy.msn.com/Anti-spam/. Violations will result in use of equipment 
located in California and other states. Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:16:43 -0700 
helo plug.org
250 bay0-mc1-f13.bay0.hotmail.com (3.5.0.22) Hello [63.108.71.211]
mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
data
354 Start mail input; end with <CRLF>.<CRLF>
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

telnet test 
.
250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Queued mail for delivery


Now, if you are subscribed with a hotmail or msn address (there are a
couple), and you do receive this email, PLEASE reply. But I'm guessing
those users will never see this.

This is truly evil behavior. Worse than SPF. Does anyone know if there's
any way to figure out what the problem is? It's possible there's a
slight misconfiguration or a workaround that would get us in the good
graces of msn, but I have no idea how to find it. Yes, I read through
http://postmaster.msn.com which aside from thoroughly depressing me had
no effect.

-- 
Hans Fugal ; http://hans.fugal.net
 
There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the 
right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself.
    -- Johann Sebastian Bach

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