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Hank,  I have to disagree with your statement that you cannot remain a Muslim 
and believe in peace.   I belong to a peace group here, and we have several 
dedicated Muslims in our group.   I believe that they are sincere.  Your 
prejudice is showing.
Thought for the day:  "Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory
for humanity."     ~Horace Mann, educational reformer (1796
                                                 ~
Yours in peace,
 
Dean 
 
I  pledge allegiance to humankind, and to the universe in which it lives...one 
community under a consciousness of Love, indivisible, with liberty and justice 
for all. 
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In these days of inclusive language,  we very much need a pronoun of neutral 
gender,  both for general usage  ("one" is often awkward and imprecise) and 
for reference to a preferred deity. When specific gender is appropriately 
avoided,  I propose "ke" (pronounced kay) for "he/she" and "kira" 
(pronounced keera) for "him/her/his/hers."   If anyone wishes to express 
kiraself elegantly and with precision,  I think ke will find these simple 
additions 
to our language to be very helpful.  I hope my readers here,  will adopt them.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Hank Roth 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 10:50 AM
  Subject: [pnews-views] Re: New Israel/Palestine List


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  I have to agree with Joni. As a very active member of many, many Jewish 
  left-wing groups years ago we tried and we tried and it didn't seem to 
  matter but it was only because we did not understand at the time that you 
  cannot remain a Muslim and still believe in peace. It is not part of their 
  religion to submit to anything but Mohammad. Any truce they make is 
  tactical. It seems like I'm generalizing and I try to avoid that, but the 
  fact of the matter is, unless a Muslim becomes an atheist he/she will not 
  agree to coexistence with infidels which are anyone who isn't a Muslim. 
  Muslims are even at war with each other. Until the west realizes this they 
  will continue to go on making the same mistakes of trying to encourage 
  Muslims to be democratic but the truth is Bush and his gang are not 
  interested in democracy; they only want power and fundamentalists share 
  the same objectives but each is only concerned with their own salvation. 
  The Jews must remain strong and there must be a strong Israel. There is no
  other alternative to this.


  --- Which incidentally is why I hated Spielberg's Munich. It was 
  all about Jewish guilt where there should not have been any. Anybody here 
  see it?

  Hank


  On Wed, 21 Jun 2006, Joni Ferris wrote:

  > http://pnews.org/
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  >>  http://pnews.org/
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  >> For those who do not know Ed Kent, he is a professor of philosophy
  >
  > And a person who has an unrealistic point of view!
  >
  > -- Joni
  >
  >
  >>  at
  >> CUNY. Hello Ed.
  >>
  >> Hank
  >>
  >>
  >> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006, Ed Kent wrote:
  >>
  >>>  http://pnews.org/
  >>>  Progressive News & Views (since 1982)
  >>>
  >>>  Hank, I have set up a new list that might be of interest to you --
  >>>  Israel/Palestine:
  >>>
  >>>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Israel_Palestine
  >>>
  >>>  Description
  >>>
  >>>  This group will work towards achieving peace in Israel/Palestine through
  >>>  candid sharing of information and concerns by Israelis, Palestinians,
  >>>  and others who hope to achieve truth and reconciliation there.
  >>>
  >>>  My aim is to have candid commentary on the problems over there so as to
  >>>  work more effectively towards real peace.  I am all too aware of the
  >>>  defenders of Israel, right or wrong, and its covert critics -- both of
  >>>  whom worry me.
  >>>
  >>>  This list has participants from both sides of the Green line speaking
  >>>  out candidly and I post to it selectively information that I consider to
  >>>  be important that is all too often lost in the fog.
  >>>
  >>>  Best, Ed
  >>>  --
  >>>  "A war is just if there is no alternative, and the resort to arms is
  >>>  legitimate if they represent your last hope." (Livy cited by Machiavelli)
  >>>  --
  >>>  Ed Kent  718-951-5324 (voice mail only) [blind copies]
  >>>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CollegeConversation
  >>>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PeaceEfforts
  >>>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EndingPoverty
  >>>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/440neighborhood
  >>>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/StudentConcerns
  >>>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AcademicFreedom
  >>>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PrivacyRights
  >>>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Israel_Palestine
  >>>  http://BlogByEdKent.blogspot.com/
  >>>  http://www.bloggernews.net
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
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