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What kind of democracy are you talking about? The only democracy they know has come from the West and they want no part of real democracy. They are all theocracies, even securlar regimes are theocratic in nature. Hank On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Ed Kent wrote: > Joni, the Middle East is recovering from centuries of colonialism. The > U.S. has supported those brutal regimes that played along with us -- > either versus the Soviets or favoring our corporate (mainly oil) > interests and we have even include Libya most recently. We sabotaged > developing democracy there (e.g. by driving out Mossadeq and thrusting > in the brutal Shah: > > http://www.iranonline.com/newsroom/Archive/Mossadeq/ > > Our freer way of life has considerable appeal -- both to intellectuals > and to the younger ones (e.g. in Iran) -- if we can stop the Bush > administration from its brutalizing and bullying. Read the book that I > suggested for a broader background on Islam and join the list and > comment -- if you want to be informed. Best, Ed > > Joni Ferris wrote: > >> http://pnews.org/ >> Progressive News & Views (since 1982) >> >> >>> http://pnews.org/ >>> Progressive News & Views (since 1982) >>> >>> You said: >>> "Sure there are ALWAYS people in a group that >>> are NOT hard line fanatics and want peace, but they also are the >>> minority. That is why they are here in America and NOT in the >>> Middle East! But when you are talking about the Middle East, the >>> hardliners run the show in the Arab world." >>> May I remind you that there are people here in the US who are "not >>> hard line fanatics and want peace"...but our voice is in the >>> minority as well, and many of us are Christians. Conservative >>> Christianity is what feeds this government, which believes that the >>> best way to save the Iraqi's is to kill them. That is the American >>> way to "run the show." We have done so by the hundreds of >>> thousands. I am neither anti-semitic nor anti-Jew, but I would ask >>> you what is the best way to save the Muslims? >> >> >> People in the US don't live over there in the Middle East. Are you >> asking me about Iraq or about the Palestine/Israel problem? >> Actually I think that both problems can be solved, by giving the >> Palestinians their homeland IN IRAQ, while there isn't a government >> set up there, we can set up a government there for them too, and give >> them land there. And then Arm Israel and help Israel build the >> BIGGEST wall there is to protect it. >> Also I think Israel should give this ultimatium: >> That if a suicide bomber should come into Israel, Mecca will be TOAST! >> >> -- Joni > -- > "A war is just if there is no alternative, and the resort to arms is > legitimate if they represent your last hope." (Livy cited by Machiavelli) > -- > Ed Kent 718-951-5324 (voice mail only) [blind copies] > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CollegeConversation > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PeaceEfforts > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EndingPoverty > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/440neighborhood > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/StudentConcerns > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AcademicFreedom > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PrivacyRights > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Israel_Palestine > http://BlogByEdKent.blogspot.com/ > http://www.bloggernews.net > > > > |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| > pnews-news - (NEWS) - Send "subscribe" or "unsub" > in subject to pnews-news-request(at)inyourface.info > pnews-views - (VIEWS) - Send "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" > as subject to pnews-views-request(at)inyourface.info > |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| > Everything begins at The Worm Hole: http://pnews.org/ > > > ----- > Something Really Nice for > your Honey - http://blackhillsg0ld.com/ > Something Really Sexy for Her for Holloween: > http://tinyurl.com/q878y > --------------------------------------------- > NEVER pay for a podcast again: > Check it out - http://tinyurl.com/mnr7r > ----- > |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| pnews-news - (NEWS) - Send "subscribe" or "unsub" in subject to pnews-news-request(at)inyourface.info pnews-views - (VIEWS) - Send "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" as subject to pnews-views-request(at)inyourface.info |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Everything begins at The Worm Hole: http://pnews.org/ ----- Something Really Nice for your Honey - http://blackhillsg0ld.com/ Something Really Sexy for Her for Holloween: http://tinyurl.com/q878y --------------------------------------------- NEVER pay for a podcast again: Check it out - http://tinyurl.com/mnr7r -----
