Sean McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:                                  
Elucidate: you are saying that there is a genetic basis for diseases like 
Tay-Sachs and sickle cell anemia among certain ethnic groups, but there is a 
not a genetic basis for mental and personality traits among certain groups?  Do 
I misunderstand you?  

REPLY
You understand perfectly. How does the reality a genetic basis for Tay-Sachs or 
sickle cell anemia translate into there being "a genetic basis for mental and 
personality traits among certain groups." That is so illogical as to not even 
qualify as bad science (or, as some science nerds say, it "not even wrong." 
note also, in your statment, you are positing that there ARE "mental and 
personality traits among certain groups." Sez who?

Sean McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Of course one can Google up many thousands of solid and reputable scientific 
articles exploring the genetic basis of mind, personality and culture -- right? 
 Do I need to Google up all the cites here, or do you acknowledge this?

REPLY
Actually, if youre talking about serious research on a genetic basis for any of 
those things among a specific group, no, I dont acknowledge it. Google away.
Sean McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

With regard to MacDonald: this discussion would be much more meaningful to me 
if you and Tim anchored your disagreements around particular direct quotes from 
MacDonald.  

REPLY
Quotes mean nothing to me; I'm not interested in a textual analysis of someone 
 claiming to be doing science. I'm interested in proof of their scientific 
claims. Macdonald has zero.

Sean McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In general, I find MacDonald, even in his white ethnic nationalist mode, to be 
less offensive and dangerous than militant Jewish ethnic nationalists like 
David Horowitz and Daniel Pipes, who have access to the mainstream media.  

REPLY
Sean, if you can consider a white fascist like Macdonald--who represents the 
dominant ethnic group in America to be less dangerous than ideologues who 
happen to be member of a tiny minority group, and who (please try to wrap your 
brain around this) do not speak for that minority group (Jews), then I dont 
know what to tell ya.

Sean McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Have you actually compared MacDonald's language to their hate speech  against 
Muslims?  I know naked incitement to genocide when I see it.  The Israeli 
government and the Israel lobby are not only permitting this kind of hate 
speech among pro-Israel extremists in America, but are actively encouraging it. 
 

REPLY
The vast majority of hate speech (and violence) against Muslims is committed by 
non-Jews (including fellow Muslims). Coming in a distant third are the 
Zionists. 

Sean McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
MacDonald is strictly small change compared to this xenophobic political 
machine, in terms of representing an immediate extremist threat to humanity.  
And he has the virtue of being much smarter than Horowitz and Pipes.  The 
neocons are uniformly the dumbest group of pseudo-intellectuals on the American 
scene, pure agitprop bots.

REPLY
Make up your mind. The neocons have held power for a decade; Macdonald is, you 
claim, "small change." Whose the dummy?

Sean McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I strongly condemn, it goes without 
saying, attempts by anyone to use MacDonald's writings to stir up hatred 
against Jews or any other ethnic groups, or to use them to violate the civil 
rights of anyone.
REPLY
Disingenuous. MacDonald's writings ARE hatred against Jews. 








       
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