Luiz,
Speak for yourself ! First you said they were
dismissed and denied and Know you come back and say they go through
the process of " triage " to validate their claims. It is you that is
being dishonest here. Trying to be like Obama are we lie and lie on
top of the lie !
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On Aug 20, 5:45 pm, CaliforniaLuis <[email protected]> wrote:
> As history has shown, the right has very little credibility.
>
> On Aug 20, 2:38 pm, Diogenes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The right should and must be very careful about attacking the
> > credibility of the arguments of anyones comments. Considering the
> > cross misrepresentation of the past years. When facts are confused and
> > the misrepresentations are substitute for verifiable facts or even the
> > most incredible comments.
>
> > On Aug 20, 5:21 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > You want us to listen to the constant stream of unending lies from the
> > > democrats instead?
>
> > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:15 PM, CaliforniaLuis <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Wrong. I worked in an ER/Trauma Center that was in one of the most
> > > > Hispanic areas of Southern California. EVERYONE that presents
> > > > themselves to an ER gets "triaged" by a nurse and a doctor. That
> > > > means vital signs and a quick exam. If you are
> > > > deemed to have a non life threatening emergency (which constitute
> > > > around 94% of all ER cases) you can be sent away LEGALLY to a free
> > > > clinic or to a private doctor if you have no form of payment. Being
> > > > "seen" is not the same as being "seen and treated".
>
> > > > On Aug 20, 12:29 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Your list is an obvious lie. YOU are obviously a
> > > > > liar because today's laws do not allow for denial of health care
> > > > > especially if you are an " illegal alien immigrant " in an emergency
> > > > > room situation though you may be denied payment for abusing the system
> > > > > the hospitals have to treat you and fight for payment later. The
> > > > > government today covers "emergency room " costs for { illegal alien
> > > > > immigrants } but not for U.S. citizens . Obama the biggest of all
> > > > > liars said today in his interview with a radio host that the bill does
> > > > > not cover " illegal alien immigrants " but it will cover emergency
> > > > > visits. So nothing has changed they will simply deluge our E-rooms and
> > > > > the bill will not allow hospitals to verify eligibility. So who are
> > > > > the liar's ? You and B.O. -------- LUIZ ! ! !
>
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>
> > > > > On Aug 20, 2:37 pm, CaliforniaLuis <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > From working in the ER for 20 years, I have seen just how
> > > > > > restrictive
> > > > > > and penny-pinching corporate healthcare is...
>
> > > > > > Your child has a horrible earache at 2 AM? The child is screaming
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > agony so you drive to the local ER. The ER staff calls your
> > > > > > insurance
> > > > > > company/HMO for authorization only to be denied because it is not a
> > > > > > "life-threatening emergency". What do they instruct the ER to tell
> > > > > > the parents? Give the child some Tylenol and go to the walk-in
> > > > > > clinic
> > > > > > at 8:00 AM.
>
> > > > > > Vomiting your brains out in the middle of the night because of food
> > > > > > poisoning? Go to the ER because you can't stop vomiting...DENIED!
> > > > > > Go
> > > > > > to your primary physician when his office opens.
>
> > > > > > Your child has a high fever. You can't seem to bring it down.
> > > > > > Unless
> > > > > > the fever is over 101 when you arrive at the ER, you will be DENIED!
> > > > > > Go to your pediatrician's office when it opens in the morning.
>
> > > > > > Get into a car accident and you need to be admitted to the hospital?
> > > > > > You are 100 miles from your insurance/HMO's contracted
> > > > > > hospital...DENIED. Unless you are critical and unstable, you are
> > > > > > put
> > > > > > into an ambulance and transferred to your contracted hospital. Most
> > > > > > of the time, your contracted hospital is not a Trauma Center so you
> > > > > > will get inexperienced and substandard care.
>
> > > > > > Gee, in any of these scenarios, if the patient would of had
> > > > > > government
> > > > > > insurance (Medi-Care or Medicaid), they would have been APPROVED.
> > > > > > In
> > > > > > fact, the ER would not even be required to call first for
> > > > > > authorization.
>
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>
> > > > > > Don't listen to people like Kama, OhioMark, Lew, LadyBug, and Ms.
> > > > > > Con...they couldn't be more WRONG. They have no real world
> > > > > > experience. They are only sounding boards of the pundits. Nearly
> > > > > > all nurses and doctors support the "public option" (as does the
> > > > > > American Medical Association). We have a perfect opportunity to
> > > > > > reform healthcare and I have a feeling we are going to give in to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > Republicans and BLOW IT!- Hide quoted text -
>
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