Travis, Oh, SUDDENLY you are talking about POLITICIANS and not just DEMOCRATS. You seem to keep forgetting that you dislike and mistrust BOTH Republicans and Democrats. Don't worry, I'll be happy to remind you. Now, would you like to point out which of Luis's statement were lies or not?
On Aug 20, 4:53 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > These days, if any politician opens his mouth, the chances are he is going > to tell a lie. > > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM, CaliforniaLuis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > As history has shown, the right has very little credibility. > > > On Aug 20, 2:38 pm, Diogenes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The right should and must be very careful about attacking the > > > credibility of the arguments of anyones comments. Considering the > > > cross misrepresentation of the past years. When facts are confused and > > > the misrepresentations are substitute for verifiable facts or even the > > > most incredible comments. > > > > On Aug 20, 5:21 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > You want us to listen to the constant stream of unending lies from the > > > > democrats instead? > > > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:15 PM, CaliforniaLuis <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Wrong. I worked in an ER/Trauma Center that was in one of the most > > > > > Hispanic areas of Southern California. EVERYONE that presents > > > > > themselves to an ER gets "triaged" by a nurse and a doctor. That > > > > > means vital signs and a quick exam. If you are > > > > > deemed to have a non life threatening emergency (which constitute > > > > > around 94% of all ER cases) you can be sent away LEGALLY to a free > > > > > clinic or to a private doctor if you have no form of payment. Being > > > > > "seen" is not the same as being "seen and treated". > > > > > > On Aug 20, 12:29 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Your list is an obvious lie. YOU are obviously a > > > > > > liar because today's laws do not allow for denial of health care > > > > > > especially if you are an " illegal alien immigrant " in an > > emergency > > > > > > room situation though you may be denied payment for abusing the > > system > > > > > > the hospitals have to treat you and fight for payment later. The > > > > > > government today covers "emergency room " costs for { illegal alien > > > > > > immigrants } but not for U.S. citizens . Obama the biggest of all > > > > > > liars said today in his interview with a radio host that the bill > > does > > > > > > not cover " illegal alien immigrants " but it will cover emergency > > > > > > visits. So nothing has changed they will simply deluge our E-rooms > > and > > > > > > the bill will not allow hospitals to verify eligibility. So who > > are > > > > > > the liar's ? You and B.O. -------- LUIZ ! ! ! > > > ************************************************************************************************************************* > > > > > > > On Aug 20, 2:37 pm, CaliforniaLuis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > From working in the ER for 20 years, I have seen just how > > restrictive > > > > > > > and penny-pinching corporate healthcare is... > > > > > > > > Your child has a horrible earache at 2 AM? The child is > > screaming in > > > > > > > agony so you drive to the local ER. The ER staff calls your > > insurance > > > > > > > company/HMO for authorization only to be denied because it is not > > a > > > > > > > "life-threatening emergency". What do they instruct the ER to > > tell > > > > > > > the parents? Give the child some Tylenol and go to the walk-in > > clinic > > > > > > > at 8:00 AM. > > > > > > > > Vomiting your brains out in the middle of the night because of > > food > > > > > > > poisoning? Go to the ER because you can't stop > > vomiting...DENIED! Go > > > > > > > to your primary physician when his office opens. > > > > > > > > Your child has a high fever. You can't seem to bring it down. > > Unless > > > > > > > the fever is over 101 when you arrive at the ER, you will be > > DENIED! > > > > > > > Go to your pediatrician's office when it opens in the morning. > > > > > > > > Get into a car accident and you need to be admitted to the > > hospital? > > > > > > > You are 100 miles from your insurance/HMO's contracted > > > > > > > hospital...DENIED. Unless you are critical and unstable, you are > > put > > > > > > > into an ambulance and transferred to your contracted hospital. > > Most > > > > > > > of the time, your contracted hospital is not a Trauma Center so > > you > > > > > > > will get inexperienced and substandard care. > > > > > > > > Gee, in any of these scenarios, if the patient would of had > > government > > > > > > > insurance (Medi-Care or Medicaid), they would have been APPROVED. > > In > > > > > > > fact, the ER would not even be required to call first for > > > > > > > authorization. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > Don't listen to people like Kama, OhioMark, Lew, LadyBug, and Ms. > > > > > > > Con...they couldn't be more WRONG. They have no real world > > > > > > > experience. They are only sounding boards of the pundits. > > Nearly > > > > > > > all nurses and doctors support the "public option" (as does the > > > > > > > American Medical Association). We have a perfect opportunity to > > > > > > > reform healthcare and I have a feeling we are going to give in to > > the > > > > > > > Republicans and BLOW IT!- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
