True. Especially the Republicans and the Democrats who align themselves with the Republicans i.e. Sen. Kent Conrad D - North Dakota.
On Aug 20, 2:53 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > These days, if any politician opens his mouth, the chances are he is going > to tell a lie. > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM, CaliforniaLuis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > As history has shown, the right has very little credibility. > > > On Aug 20, 2:38 pm, Diogenes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The right should and must be very careful about attacking the > > > credibility of the arguments of anyones comments. Considering the > > > cross misrepresentation of the past years. When facts are confused and > > > the misrepresentations are substitute for verifiable facts or even the > > > most incredible comments. > > > > On Aug 20, 5:21 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > You want us to listen to the constant stream of unending lies from the > > > > democrats instead? > > > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:15 PM, CaliforniaLuis <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Wrong. I worked in an ER/Trauma Center that was in one of the most > > > > > Hispanic areas of Southern California. EVERYONE that presents > > > > > themselves to an ER gets "triaged" by a nurse and a doctor. That > > > > > means vital signs and a quick exam. If you are > > > > > deemed to have a non life threatening emergency (which constitute > > > > > around 94% of all ER cases) you can be sent away LEGALLY to a free > > > > > clinic or to a private doctor if you have no form of payment. Being > > > > > "seen" is not the same as being "seen and treated". > > > > > > On Aug 20, 12:29 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Your list is an obvious lie. YOU are obviously a > > > > > > liar because today's laws do not allow for denial of health care > > > > > > especially if you are an " illegal alien immigrant " in an > > emergency > > > > > > room situation though you may be denied payment for abusing the > > system > > > > > > the hospitals have to treat you and fight for payment later. The > > > > > > government today covers "emergency room " costs for { illegal alien > > > > > > immigrants } but not for U.S. citizens . Obama the biggest of all > > > > > > liars said today in his interview with a radio host that the bill > > does > > > > > > not cover " illegal alien immigrants " but it will cover emergency > > > > > > visits. So nothing has changed they will simply deluge our E-rooms > > and > > > > > > the bill will not allow hospitals to verify eligibility. So who > > are > > > > > > the liar's ? You and B.O. -------- LUIZ ! ! ! > > > ************************************************************************************************************************* > > > > > > > On Aug 20, 2:37 pm, CaliforniaLuis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > From working in the ER for 20 years, I have seen just how > > restrictive > > > > > > > and penny-pinching corporate healthcare is... > > > > > > > > Your child has a horrible earache at 2 AM? The child is > > screaming in > > > > > > > agony so you drive to the local ER. The ER staff calls your > > insurance > > > > > > > company/HMO for authorization only to be denied because it is not > > a > > > > > > > "life-threatening emergency". What do they instruct the ER to > > tell > > > > > > > the parents? Give the child some Tylenol and go to the walk-in > > clinic > > > > > > > at 8:00 AM. > > > > > > > > Vomiting your brains out in the middle of the night because of > > food > > > > > > > poisoning? Go to the ER because you can't stop > > vomiting...DENIED! Go > > > > > > > to your primary physician when his office opens. > > > > > > > > Your child has a high fever. You can't seem to bring it down. > > Unless > > > > > > > the fever is over 101 when you arrive at the ER, you will be > > DENIED! > > > > > > > Go to your pediatrician's office when it opens in the morning. > > > > > > > > Get into a car accident and you need to be admitted to the > > hospital? > > > > > > > You are 100 miles from your insurance/HMO's contracted > > > > > > > hospital...DENIED. Unless you are critical and unstable, you are > > put > > > > > > > into an ambulance and transferred to your contracted hospital. > > Most > > > > > > > of the time, your contracted hospital is not a Trauma Center so > > you > > > > > > > will get inexperienced and substandard care. > > > > > > > > Gee, in any of these scenarios, if the patient would of had > > government > > > > > > > insurance (Medi-Care or Medicaid), they would have been APPROVED. > > In > > > > > > > fact, the ER would not even be required to call first for > > > > > > > authorization. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > Don't listen to people like Kama, OhioMark, Lew, LadyBug, and Ms. > > > > > > > Con...they couldn't be more WRONG. They have no real world > > > > > > > experience. They are only sounding boards of the pundits. > > Nearly > > > > > > > all nurses and doctors support the "public option" (as does the > > > > > > > American Medical Association). We have a perfect opportunity to > > > > > > > reform healthcare and I have a feeling we are going to give in to > > the > > > > > > > Republicans and BLOW IT!- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
